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|    SolomonW to Ned Latham    |
|    Re: Had Europe never existed, the world     |
|    09 Dec 19 23:30:21    |
      XPost: talk.politics.misc, soc.history.what-if, alt.history.what-if       From: SolomonW@citi.com              On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 06:59:12 -0600, Ned Latham wrote:              > SolomonW wrote:       >> Ned Latham wrote:       >>> PhantomView wrote:       >>> >       >>> > Pouring classical,       >>> > arabic and far eastern philosophy, science and tech into that       >>> > situation allowed for an energetic reaction the likes of which had       >>> > not been seen before.       >>>       >>> Almost all of that was European anyway: the knowledge and science of       >>> the Ancient Greeks, transmitted to Rome, then to Persia when Justinian       >>> forbade teaching by pagans, then to Islam when the Arabs conquered       >>> Persia. There was as well a little from China and India.       >>>       >>> Islam is in fact responsible for *nothing* good. Even their       >>> architecture was derived from that of Ancient Rome. And India.       >>       >> Although I think that Islam is overrated for politically correct reasons,       >> I think this goes too far. Islam did some of the medicine, discussions of       >> physics, mathematics, etc.       >       > If you examine the basis of those claims, you'll find that they all lie       > in compendia of ancient knowledge put together by Persian scholars in       > the tenth and eleventh ccnturies. Muslims, yes, but not originators.              There is some original material there.                     >       >>> > I am at a bit of a loss to explain why Rome missed the boat.       >>>       >>> Christianity stultified it.       >>       >> I am not sure, later era of the Roman Empire was technologically       >> advancing faster.       >       > Only in areas that weren't a problem for Christian dogma.              Which areas would take be? By 400 CE the Western Roman Empire was pretty       homogenise              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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