XPost: talk.politics.misc, soc.history.what-if, alt.history.what-if
From: SolomonW@citi.com
On Mon, 09 Dec 2019 21:58:41 -0500, PhantomView wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 23:33:23 +1100, SolomonW wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 21:51:21 -0500, PhantomView wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 22:24:38 +1100, SolomonW wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 19:33:24 -0600, Byker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> China, India, etc., so called "civilizations" had ZERO
>>>>> progressive spark. Their evolution had ceased 1000 years before.
>>>>
>>>>China was technologically growing for much of this 1000 year period.
>>>
>>> But not as fast as would be expected.
>>>
>>> I once heard it explained that there was a confluence
>>> of Confucian and Taoist perspectives that encouraged
>>> people to "let things be" ... just fulfill your traditional roles,
>>> keep the old world going, do not rock the boat.
>>>
>>> This put the brakes on Chinese sci/tech.
>>
>>Well Japan has the same perspectives and it is not like that.
>
> Similar in the "social order" perspective, but not
> when it comes to innovation/tech/invention.
>
> It is *extremely* impressive how quickly Japan went from
> being an essentially medieval nation to becoming a powerful
> force in the world .... barely two generations between
> sharpening swords and animal-drawn carts to whipping
> the Tsars pacific fleet.
Again that is society, Japan a few hundred years earlier was one of the
leaders in gunpowder technology.
> That is NOT China .... despite some
> similarities there is a different dynamic in Japanese culture.
China went through rapid advancement in this period too. The big problem
they faced was their enemy Japan was advancing faster.
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