From: esp@snet.n   
      
   On 7/28/2025 1:29 AM, Jim Joyce wrote:   
   > On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 20:05:45 +0200, "Carlos E.R."   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
      
   >>> If you have a smooth surface there are grab bars with suction cups that   
   >>> can work.  Problem is air will leak in eventually so they must be   
   >>> reattached.   
   >>   
   >> They can fail just when you put weight on it and you fall down.   
   >   
   > That's exactly what would worry me.   
   >   
      
   They are not something I'd use to pull myself out of the tub or other   
   full weight situations.   
      
   What they can do, is keep you steady when entering or leaving a walk in   
   shower.  They make that safer.  So would a bent nail in the wall.  I   
   used one for a few years, it helps prevent tripping.  Very little force   
   is ever on it.   
      
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