From: NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com   
      
   In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 28 Jul 2025 08:58:55 -0400, Ed P   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 7/28/2025 1:29 AM, Jim Joyce wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 20:05:45 +0200, "Carlos E.R."   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >   
   >>>> If you have a smooth surface there are grab bars with suction cups that   
   >>>> can work.  Problem is air will leak in eventually so they must be   
   >>>> reattached.   
   >>>   
   >>> They can fail just when you put weight on it and you fall down.   
   >>   
   >> That's exactly what would worry me.   
   >>   
   >   
   >They are not something I'd use to pull myself out of the tub or other   
   >full weight situations.   
   >   
   >What they can do, is keep you steady when entering or leaving a walk in   
   >shower.  They make that safer.  So would a bent nail in the wall.  I   
   >used one for a few years, it helps prevent tripping.  Very little force   
   >is ever on it.   
      
   Another thing a weakly-attached thing can do, if your hand is on it, is   
   be an -- not sure the best word -- indicator of your current position   
   and orientation, so if you start to lose your balance, or you walk on   
   something that's not level and you start to trip, your changing   
   relationship to what you are touching will warn you right away, sooner   
   than if you weren't touching anythingm, even if you don't grip it at   
   all.   
      
      
   I saw one of the endless commercials for shower refitting on tV a few   
   minute ago and it came with grab bars.  I sort of assume they are   
   posistioned in the same place in every copy of a given model. I wonder   
   what they are attached too besides the large sheet of plastic that makes   
   the shower wall.  I wonder how many customers inquire.   
      
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