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|    31 Jul 25 14:23:41    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump       XPost: rec.arts.tv, uk.politics.misc       From: whatsupwiththatear@theyleftmealive.com              On 7/31/25 1:36 PM, Marmalade King wrote:       >       >       > The first American ‘scientific refugees’ arrive in France       > Aix-Marseille University is wooing researchers who feel targeted by the       > Trump administration.       > Free article usually reserved for subscribers       > Safe place science       > U.S. researcher Brian Sandberg applied for the “Safe Place for Science"       > program. He said the U.S. research and education systems were "really       > under attack." | Victor Goury-Laffont/POLITICO       > July 1, 2025 4:22 am CET       > By Victor Goury-Laffont       > MARSEILLE, France — The first American academics fleeing Donald Trump's       > America for France have arrived.       > Aix-Marseille University last week introduced eight U.S.-based       > researchers who were in the final stage of joining the institution's       > “Safe Place for Science" program, which aims to woo researchers who have       > experienced or fear funding cuts under the Trump administration. AMU       > offers the promise of a brighter future in the sun-drenched       > Mediterranean port city.       > While both France and the European Union have launched multimillion-euro       > plans to woo researchers across the pond since Trump assumed the U.S.       > presidency in January, AMU's initiative was the first of its kind in the       > country — meaning the eight researchers who were welcomed are the first       > academic refugees planning to trade the United States for France.       > Speaking from the university’s hilltop astrophysics lab, AMU President       > Eric Berton likened the situation to that of European academics who fled       > persecution by Nazi Germany both before and during World War II.       > “What is at play here today is not unrelated to another dark period of       > our history,” he said.       > Berton and former French President François Hollande have pushed for the       > creation of a "scientific refugee" status.       > As most of the researchers who attended Berton’s speech had not yet       > signed their contracts with AMU, they requested anonymity to protect       > their stateside research positions if they ended up not being admitted       > or declining the offer.       > Among the applicants were James, a climate scientist at a reputable       > research university, and his wife, who studies the intersection of       > judicial systems and democracies. James said they had applied because       > they were “working in areas which are targeted” and could be prone to       > funding cuts.       > While James, who didn't want his surname used, said he doesn't think of       > himself and his fellow academics as "refugees," he voiced deep concern       > about the future of academic research under Trump.       > Brian Sandberg, a professor of history at Northern Illinois University       > who researches climate change during the Little Ice Age period from       > roughly the 16th to 19th centuries, had already been set to spend a year       > in Marseille as a visiting professor. While taking part in a workshop in       > the city in March, he learned of AMU’s program and decided to apply.       > "The entire system of research and the entire education in the United       > States is really under attack," Sandberg said.       > AMU said 298 researchers from prestigious universities including       > Stanford and Yale had applied, despite the university's lack of name       > recognition outside France compared to some of its Parisian       > counterparts. Berton said the high volume of applicants spoke to the       > "urgency" of the situation across the Atlantic.       > The university’s president insisted that participants in the “Safe Place       > for Science” program would be paid the same wages as French researchers.       > | Clement Mahoudeau/AFP via Getty Images       > The school has already put up €15 million to pay for the program and is       > lobbying the French government to match that figure, which would enable       > it to nearly double its planned hires from 20 to 39.       > Still, moving to a new country where English is not the official       > language a big step. There's also the issue of salaries, which are lower       > for academics in France than in the United States, and the fact there's       > less money for research.       > An early-career biological anthropologist said she was still awaiting       > contract details from AMU before putting pen to paper because of salary       > discrepancies, though she took comfort in the fact that the cost of       > living is lower in France — especially considering that education for       > her two children, who she said were eager to settle in Marseille, would       > be free.       > The university’s president insisted that participants in the “Safe Place       > for Science” program would be paid the same wages as French researchers.       > The statement sought to appease concerns within France’s academic       > community that money would now be focused on drawing U.S. scientists       > whereas local researchers have long complained of insufficient funding.       > But the biological anthropologist said a more carefree life could       > compensate for a lower salary. "There’ll be a lot less stress as a       > whole, politically, academically," she reflected.       >       >       > https://www.politico.eu/article/meet-first-academic-refugees-fleeing-us-       > france-science-program/                     Safe Place for Science program? Is that just another term for "taxpayer       funded, government tit sucking, can't find a job in the private sector       program"?              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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