From: patchmoney@gmx.com   
      
   On 12 Aug 2025 at 04:23:37 BST, retired1 wrote:   
      
   > On 8/11/25 11:03 PM, Carol wrote:   
   >> When this group was usable for it's intended purpose.  Sadly, I believe   
   >> that time has passed.   
   >>   
   >> Recently something came up where 20 years ago I would have posted for   
   >> advice but this time, having deleted 6 months of traffic as it was all   
   >> political spam of no use to anyone here, well didn't bother.   
   >>   
   >> Our daughter just moved into her first apartment.  I would have asked   
   >> for a recommended tool box and ingredients matching today's common   
   >> needs.   
   >>   
   >> I think we did well and Daddy got a little bit too tool happy and   
   >> passed on more than she needs (grin).   
   >   
   > FWIW, when my granddaughter got her first apartment, I got her one of these:   
   >   
   > https://www.acehardware.com/departments/tools/hand-tools/hand-   
   ultitools/2369734   
      
   Should help her appreciate the value of decent tools in no time :-)   
      
   But yes, a good idea. To which I'd add a 14V drill/driver. And a bradawl.   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK   
      
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