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      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump       XPost: rec.arts.tv       From: prochoice@here.now              Reasons Why God Doesn’t Exist       Rational arguments for Atheism                     In my experience, believers hate nothing more than the burden of proof, and       that’s why they try to redefine what evidence means so that it is no longer       a fact that indicates. Because they can’t give you any facts not to point       their way, so they give arguments instead of evidence — essentially word       games trying to define their God into existence with erroneous or       fallacious assumptions built into most of them. If you ever look at a list       of logical fallacies, you might notice that every one of them has been used       as an argument for God, and in my experience, every argument for God       involves at least one logical fallacy and usually more than one. Following,       I will list that as one of many facts and evidence in my case against God.              Of course, the fact that the first fact in evidence against God is that       there is no evidence for God, we have to start there because logically       having no reason to believe something is a pretty good reason not to       believe it, especially when such is neither probable nor even possible. We       don’t get to say that anything is possible because we know too many things       that are not; a cow cannot jump over the moon, for example. That’s not just       improbable; that’s physically impossible. In order to say whether something       is possible, there must be a precedent or a parallel or verified phenomenon       indicating that such possibility exists. We don’t have that for gods or       ghosts or demons or souls or for magical enchantments like blessings or       curses. So not only is none of that evident, it’s not even a possibility to       consider.              Believers can’t even give a consistent definition of what their God is       supposed to be. Neuroscientists understand the mind to be an emergent       property of the brain, so the notion of a disembodied mind is nonsense, and       it’s contradicted by scripture as well. Because while modern theologians       have contrived some lofty exaggerations of what they’ve built their God up       to be, let’s not forget God’s humble beginnings in ancient mythology. The       Bible tells us that God walks, talks, eats, turns his head, waves his hand,       shows his backside, and cheats at wrestling. It says that Adam, Abraham,       and Moses all spoke to God face to face, and that seventy of the Elders of       Israel were allowed to look upon God in physical form.              But whether God has a body or not, there’s no explanation given for how       this God even could exist, much less how it does anything, and the sacred       fables all say ridiculous things like how he created the first man with a       Golem spell. Well, he created everything else with an incantation, speaking       everything out of nothing, abracadabra, just like so many pagan gods did,       like the Native American God Coyote who made the mountains and the rivers       and who put the salmon into the rivers, or the God of Hindu mythology,       Vishwakarma, who is often credited as the divine architect and engineer of       the gods responsible for designing and building their celestial abodes,       weapons, and vehicles. There’s no explanation for how he made or put       anything or how gods do anything; it’s all a process of pure f***ing magic.              Then there’s the fact that it doesn’t matter which faith we focus on; no       religion can show that they’re any more accurate than every other faith.       The same goes for their scriptures too. The Jewish Torah, the Christian       gospels, the Quran of Islam, the Ketov, the Guru Granth of the Sikhs, the       Hindu Vedas, the Mahabharata, the Bhagavad-gita, The Book of Mormon, and so       on, have all been declared by some devotees to be the absolute truth and       the revealed word of the one true God, even when they can’t agree on who or       what that God is. Everyone knows that every word of all these supposedly       sacred publications was scribbled by scribes, mere fallible men who       obviously had no idea what they were talking about because every supposedly       god-breathed doctrine is full of errors. For example, everything the Bible       or the Quran says about the Earth in relation to the rest of the cosmos is       flat Earth cosmology from the Iron Age, so they couldn’t have been written       or given or dictated by any gods or angels because they would have known       better.              We have sufficient evidence in science to prove that Adam and Eve are       genetically impossible and were not real people. The global population       cannot have been derived from a single couple, not six thousand years ago,       nor even 600,000 years ago. We descend from a particular population of apes       numbering several thousand strong at least, who set out on the road to our       lineage at least a few million years ago. To be clear, this is a matter of       objectively demonstrable scientific facts, not assumptions. Physical       anthropologists and paleo primatologists can show how humans and       chimpanzees share a common ancestry is an objectively verifiable fact in       the absolute sense that it doesn’t change, meaning that it will not be       corrected by new information. It’s not just a probability; it’s a       certainty.              Cultural anthropologists can also show how we know that the tale of the       Garden of Eden is nothing more than a fable composed of several tropes and       characters showing the apparent influence of elder religions in neighboring       regions. It’s only possible truth depends on metaphorical interpretations;       there is absolutely no truth of any part of that story. Otherwise,       archaeologists assure us that the same goes for the Tower of Babel and even       The Exodus. Historians agree that Moses never existed; he was a legendary       character, but he wasn’t real.              Then paleontologists, geologists, geneticists, and practically any other       Earth and life scientists can disprove the global flood of Noah’s Ark. The       Bible and the Quran both imply that this was a global event, flooding the       whole world, and that everyone alive today is a descendant of Noah. But we       have literally tons of rock-solid proof from many independent fields of       study that it’s just a story; it never happened, not the way it says in       anyone’s scriptures. It’s not just that it couldn’t have happened, but even       if it could have, by some flurry of miracles, we still have an overwhelming       preponderance of evidence to prove that it didn’t happen. So the Bible and       the Quran are both wrong, not just about that, but practically everything       else of importance too.              It’s not just that all the scriptures are laughably wrong about practically       everything scientifically and historically, ethically and morally; it’s       that outside of these assorted doctrines, we see that the fact that belief       in any God doesn’t have any apparent impact on the person’s morality.              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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