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   Attilia to All   
   God Only Exists in The Minds Of Gullible   
   17 Aug 25 01:35:39   
   
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   From: prochoice@here.now   
      
   Reasons Why God Doesn’t Exist   
   Rational arguments for Atheism   
      
      
   In my experience, believers hate nothing more than the burden of proof, and   
   that’s why they try to redefine what evidence means so that it is no longer   
   a fact that indicates. Because they can’t give you any facts not to point   
   their way, so they give arguments instead of evidence — essentially word   
   games trying to define their God into existence with erroneous or   
   fallacious assumptions built into most of them. If you ever look at a list   
   of logical fallacies, you might notice that every one of them has been used   
   as an argument for God, and in my experience, every argument for God   
   involves at least one logical fallacy and usually more than one. Following,   
   I will list that as one of many facts and evidence in my case against God.   
      
   Of course, the fact that the first fact in evidence against God is that   
   there is no evidence for God, we have to start there because logically   
   having no reason to believe something is a pretty good reason not to   
   believe it, especially when such is neither probable nor even possible. We   
   don’t get to say that anything is possible because we know too many things   
   that are not; a cow cannot jump over the moon, for example. That’s not just   
   improbable; that’s physically impossible. In order to say whether something   
   is possible, there must be a precedent or a parallel or verified phenomenon   
   indicating that such possibility exists. We don’t have that for gods or   
   ghosts or demons or souls or for magical enchantments like blessings or   
   curses. So not only is none of that evident, it’s not even a possibility to   
   consider.   
      
   Believers can’t even give a consistent definition of what their God is   
   supposed to be. Neuroscientists understand the mind to be an emergent   
   property of the brain, so the notion of a disembodied mind is nonsense, and   
   it’s contradicted by scripture as well. Because while modern theologians   
   have contrived some lofty exaggerations of what they’ve built their God up   
   to be, let’s not forget God’s humble beginnings in ancient mythology. The   
   Bible tells us that God walks, talks, eats, turns his head, waves his hand,   
   shows his backside, and cheats at wrestling. It says that Adam, Abraham,   
   and Moses all spoke to God face to face, and that seventy of the Elders of   
   Israel were allowed to look upon God in physical form.   
      
   But whether God has a body or not, there’s no explanation given for how   
   this God even could exist, much less how it does anything, and the sacred   
   fables all say ridiculous things like how he created the first man with a   
   Golem spell. Well, he created everything else with an incantation, speaking   
   everything out of nothing, abracadabra, just like so many pagan gods did,   
   like the Native American God Coyote who made the mountains and the rivers   
   and who put the salmon into the rivers, or the God of Hindu mythology,   
   Vishwakarma, who is often credited as the divine architect and engineer of   
   the gods responsible for designing and building their celestial abodes,   
   weapons, and vehicles. There’s no explanation for how he made or put   
   anything or how gods do anything; it’s all a process of pure f***ing magic.   
      
   Then there’s the fact that it doesn’t matter which faith we focus on; no   
   religion can show that they’re any more accurate than every other faith.   
   The same goes for their scriptures too. The Jewish Torah, the Christian   
   gospels, the Quran of Islam, the Ketov, the Guru Granth of the Sikhs, the   
   Hindu Vedas, the Mahabharata, the Bhagavad-gita, The Book of Mormon, and so   
   on, have all been declared by some devotees to be the absolute truth and   
   the revealed word of the one true God, even when they can’t agree on who or   
   what that God is. Everyone knows that every word of all these supposedly   
   sacred publications was scribbled by scribes, mere fallible men who   
   obviously had no idea what they were talking about because every supposedly   
   god-breathed doctrine is full of errors. For example, everything the Bible   
   or the Quran says about the Earth in relation to the rest of the cosmos is   
   flat Earth cosmology from the Iron Age, so they couldn’t have been written   
   or given or dictated by any gods or angels because they would have known   
   better.   
      
   We have sufficient evidence in science to prove that Adam and Eve are   
   genetically impossible and were not real people. The global population   
   cannot have been derived from a single couple, not six thousand years ago,   
   nor even 600,000 years ago. We descend from a particular population of apes   
   numbering several thousand strong at least, who set out on the road to our   
   lineage at least a few million years ago. To be clear, this is a matter of   
   objectively demonstrable scientific facts, not assumptions. Physical   
   anthropologists and paleo primatologists can show how humans and   
   chimpanzees share a common ancestry is an objectively verifiable fact in   
   the absolute sense that it doesn’t change, meaning that it will not be   
   corrected by new information. It’s not just a probability; it’s a   
   certainty.   
      
   Cultural anthropologists can also show how we know that the tale of the   
   Garden of Eden is nothing more than a fable composed of several tropes and   
   characters showing the apparent influence of elder religions in neighboring   
   regions. It’s only possible truth depends on metaphorical interpretations;   
   there is absolutely no truth of any part of that story. Otherwise,   
   archaeologists assure us that the same goes for the Tower of Babel and even   
   The Exodus. Historians agree that Moses never existed; he was a legendary   
   character, but he wasn’t real.   
      
   Then paleontologists, geologists, geneticists, and practically any other   
   Earth and life scientists can disprove the global flood of Noah’s Ark. The   
   Bible and the Quran both imply that this was a global event, flooding the   
   whole world, and that everyone alive today is a descendant of Noah. But we   
   have literally tons of rock-solid proof from many independent fields of   
   study that it’s just a story; it never happened, not the way it says in   
   anyone’s scriptures. It’s not just that it couldn’t have happened, but even   
   if it could have, by some flurry of miracles, we still have an overwhelming   
   preponderance of evidence to prove that it didn’t happen. So the Bible and   
   the Quran are both wrong, not just about that, but practically everything   
   else of importance too.   
      
   It’s not just that all the scriptures are laughably wrong about practically   
   everything scientifically and historically, ethically and morally; it’s   
   that outside of these assorted doctrines, we see that the fact that belief   
   in any God doesn’t have any apparent impact on the person’s morality.   
      
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