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      XPost: alt.religion.christian, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism       XPost: rec.arts.tv       From: moo55@gmail.com              Top 10 reasons God does not exist       Sep 6, 2016       —       by       Joop Beris       in Atheism, Updated       Last Updated on 2022-09-18 by Joop Beris       As an atheist, I obviously do not believe in God. I can’t be absolutely sure       that there is no divine being of some sort but I think it is beyond any       reasonable doubt that the God of the Bible (or Torah and Koran for that       matter) doesn’t exist. Here are my Top 10 reasons God does not exist.       For a better understanding of my personal reasons to be an atheist, you may       want to check out this article too. If you believe in God or find yourself in       doubt, you will want to read 10 bad reasons to believe in God and 9 logical       reasons why there is no God.       10. People speak for God.       According to Christians, Jesus walked the Earth in the flesh, appeared to       people after his alleged death and God even spoke directly to people like       Abraham and Moses. This all happened a long time ago though and no direct       evidence exists to support these events. Nowadays, there are still people who       claim to speak for God and people who claim that God speaks to them. Many of       them sound like they have mental problems and would be a source of       embarrassment if they were the spokesperson of anyone today. Why would an       omnipotent and benevolent God have such people speak for him? If God really       existed, he would speak for himself.              9. So many gods to choose from.       Christians (and other religions) claim that their God is the one true God and       all the others aren’t real. It’s unclear how they determined this. Why is       their God the real thing and not any of the others? Circumstance appears to       dictate which God you believe in, like place of birth and the faith of your       parents. Children growing up in a home without religion, grow up without       believing in God unless someone tells them. If there were one true God who       wanted to save people, he would reveal himself. The fact that he doesn’t,       proves that God doesn’t exist.              8. God isn’t love.       Christians are ever so fond of telling us that God is love, that he regards       us as his children, that he came to die for our sins and that he wants       everyone to be saved. Obviously, this is not true. If God is our omnipotent       father, it would be trivial for him to save people from dying horrible       deaths. If he cared for us like a father, he would make sure that none of us       would have to suffer an eternity in hell. That’s what an actual loving parent       does.              The God of the Old Testament is the most unpleasant character...The God of       the Old Testament is the most unpleasant character…       The God of the Bible appears very different when you actually read the Bible.       God has no problems wiping out very nearly everyone on Earth in a global       flood. He commands the Israelites to commit genocide and berates Moses for       not being thorough enough. He deliberately hardens the heart of the Pharaoh       so that he can deliver the plagues upon Egypt. If we don’t love him back, he       quite happily consigns us to everlasting torture by fire. These are not the       actions of a kind, loving father but the actions of a psychopath. This proves       that God doesn’t exist, at least not how people prefer to believe in Him.              7. God supposedly doesn’t want to interfere with free will.       When asked why God no longer performs miracles today, why he doesn’t appear       to people any more, we are often told that God has to remain hidden because       he doesn’t want to interfere with our free will. If it were obvious that he       was there, of course people would believe in him. Yes, and? Why would that be       a problem for God? If he loves us and wants us to be saved, what better way       to ensure that than being painfully obvious for everyone?       Moreover, God had no problem being obvious in the past. He parted the Red       Sea, spoke directly with people, appeared in a fiery column, brought people       back from the dead, incarnated himself and died a public death, appeared       after his public death and many more. Why wasn’t it a problem for people       witnessing these events to lose their free will? What has changed? It is much       more likely that those events are myths and that God doesn’t exist. Free will       has nothing to do with it.              6. Jesus wasn’t a nice person.       Christians all around the world have this warm, fuzzy image of a kind of       hippie Jesus avant-la-lettre, who went around preaching love and forgiveness.       That doesn’t correspond to what the Bible tells us about Jesus, though. At       best, Jesus sounds like a hypocrite when he tells people to love their       enemies but at the same time says that people who don’t believe in him, will       be cast into the fire. Jesus also tells people that he has not come to bring       peace but a sword and that we are to hate our relatives if we want to follow       him. And what to think of the Canaanite woman who pleads with Jesus and he       sends her away calling her a dog because she is not the right nationality? Or       when he kills a fig tree for not bearing fruit at a time when figs are out of       season? That doesn’t sound like a loving God but like a childish, capricious       and bigoted person.       The loving Jesus who is also God? He doesn’t exist.              5. Jesus failed       Millions of Christians believe that Jesus was God incarnate, God become flesh       in this world. He came to die for our sins so that everyone could be saved.       Clearly, he failed miserably in his mission. Many people don’t believe in him       and some even believe he may never have existed at all. Many more people       believe in a different God. And many people have never heard of him. When you       think about it, why didn’t Jesus do a better job? Why didn’t he do something       better with his omniscience than dying rather anonymously in a barbaric       desert region in the Middle East? After all, being omnipotent and omniscient,       he would have known beforehand that his mission would only be a success on a       limited scale. Even I could find a better way to save people without being       all-knowing. Clearly, the Jesus that Christians believe in, wasn’t the       omnipotent and omniscient God that he is made out to be. He doesn’t exist.              4. Christians don’t trust in God either       I know they profess to believe in God and that God is their saviour and that       they put their trust in God. The reality is that they don’t really do that.       If they did, no Christian would have insurance, no Christian would go see a       doctor and no Christian would need to look before crossing the road. After       all, when God has your back, what could possibly happen to you, right? A       simple prayer will set everything straight again, won’t it? If it’s your time       to die, it’s your time to die, no? Since they’ve accepted Jesus, they’ll go       straight to heaven, won’t they?              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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