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   Thomas Gerald Moog to All   
   Top 10 reasons God does not exist Top 10   
   17 Aug 25 01:44:23   
   
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   From: moo55@gmail.com   
      
   Top 10 reasons God does not exist   
   Sep 6, 2016   
   —   
   by   
   Joop Beris   
   in Atheism, Updated   
   Last Updated on 2022-09-18 by Joop Beris   
   As an atheist, I obviously do not believe in God. I can’t be absolutely sure   
   that there is no divine being of some sort but I think it is beyond any   
   reasonable doubt that the God of the Bible (or Torah and Koran for that   
   matter) doesn’t exist. Here are my Top 10 reasons God does not exist.   
   For a better understanding of my personal reasons to be an atheist, you may   
   want to check out this article too. If you believe in God or find yourself in   
   doubt, you will want to read 10 bad reasons to believe in God and 9 logical   
   reasons why there is no God.   
   10. People speak for God.   
   According to Christians, Jesus walked the Earth in the flesh, appeared to   
   people after his alleged death and God even spoke directly to people like   
   Abraham and Moses. This all happened a long time ago though and no direct   
   evidence exists to support these events. Nowadays, there are still people who   
   claim to speak for God and people who claim that God speaks to them. Many of   
   them sound like they have mental problems and would be a source of   
   embarrassment if they were the spokesperson of anyone today. Why would an   
   omnipotent and benevolent God have such people speak for him? If God really   
   existed, he would speak for himself.   
      
   9. So many gods to choose from.   
   Christians (and other religions) claim that their God is the one true God and   
   all the others aren’t real. It’s unclear how they determined this. Why is   
   their God the real thing and not any of the others? Circumstance appears to   
   dictate which God you believe in, like place of birth and the faith of your   
   parents. Children growing up in a home without religion, grow up without   
   believing in God unless someone tells them. If there were one true God who   
   wanted to save people, he would reveal himself. The fact that he doesn’t,   
   proves that God doesn’t exist.   
      
   8. God isn’t love.   
   Christians are ever so fond of telling us that God is love, that he regards   
   us as his children, that he came to die for our sins and that he wants   
   everyone to be saved. Obviously, this is not true. If God is our omnipotent   
   father, it would be trivial for him to save people from dying horrible   
   deaths. If he cared for us like a father, he would make sure that none of us   
   would have to suffer an eternity in hell. That’s what an actual loving parent   
   does.   
      
   The God of the Old Testament is the most unpleasant character...The God of   
   the Old Testament is the most unpleasant character…   
   The God of the Bible appears very different when you actually read the Bible.   
   God has no problems wiping out very nearly everyone on Earth in a global   
   flood. He commands the Israelites to commit genocide and berates Moses for   
   not being thorough enough. He deliberately hardens the heart of the Pharaoh   
   so that he can deliver the plagues upon Egypt. If we don’t love him back, he   
   quite happily consigns us to everlasting torture by fire. These are not the   
   actions of a kind, loving father but the actions of a psychopath. This proves   
   that God doesn’t exist, at least not how people prefer to believe in Him.   
      
   7. God supposedly doesn’t want to interfere with free will.   
   When asked why God no longer performs miracles today, why he doesn’t appear   
   to people any more, we are often told that God has to remain hidden because   
   he doesn’t want to interfere with our free will. If it were obvious that he   
   was there, of course people would believe in him. Yes, and? Why would that be   
   a problem for God? If he loves us and wants us to be saved, what better way   
   to ensure that than being painfully obvious for everyone?   
   Moreover, God had no problem being obvious in the past. He parted the Red   
   Sea, spoke directly with people, appeared in a fiery column, brought people   
   back from the dead, incarnated himself and died a public death, appeared   
   after his public death and many more. Why wasn’t it a problem for people   
   witnessing these events to lose their free will? What has changed? It is much   
   more likely that those events are myths and that God doesn’t exist. Free will   
   has nothing to do with it.   
      
   6. Jesus wasn’t a nice person.   
   Christians all around the world have this warm, fuzzy image of a kind of   
   hippie Jesus avant-la-lettre, who went around preaching love and forgiveness.   
   That doesn’t correspond to what the Bible tells us about Jesus, though. At   
   best, Jesus sounds like a hypocrite when he tells people to love their   
   enemies but at the same time says that people who don’t believe in him, will   
   be cast into the fire. Jesus also tells people that he has not come to bring   
   peace but a sword and that we are to hate our relatives if we want to follow   
   him. And what to think of the Canaanite woman who pleads with Jesus and he   
   sends her away calling her a dog because she is not the right nationality? Or   
   when he kills a fig tree for not bearing fruit at a time when figs are out of   
   season? That doesn’t sound like a loving God but like a childish, capricious   
   and bigoted person.   
   The loving Jesus who is also God? He doesn’t exist.   
      
   5. Jesus failed   
   Millions of Christians believe that Jesus was God incarnate, God become flesh   
   in this world. He came to die for our sins so that everyone could be saved.   
   Clearly, he failed miserably in his mission. Many people don’t believe in him   
   and some even believe he may never have existed at all. Many more people   
   believe in a different God. And many people have never heard of him. When you   
   think about it, why didn’t Jesus do a better job? Why didn’t he do something   
   better with his omniscience than dying rather anonymously in a barbaric   
   desert region in the Middle East? After all, being omnipotent and omniscient,   
   he would have known beforehand that his mission would only be a success on a   
   limited scale. Even I could find a better way to save people without being   
   all-knowing. Clearly, the Jesus that Christians believe in, wasn’t the   
   omnipotent and omniscient God that he is made out to be. He doesn’t exist.   
      
   4. Christians don’t trust in God either   
   I know they profess to believe in God and that God is their saviour and that   
   they put their trust in God. The reality is that they don’t really do that.   
   If they did, no Christian would have insurance, no Christian would go see a   
   doctor and no Christian would need to look before crossing the road. After   
   all, when God has your back, what could possibly happen to you, right? A   
   simple prayer will set everything straight again, won’t it? If it’s your time   
   to die, it’s your time to die, no? Since they’ve accepted Jesus, they’ll go   
   straight to heaven, won’t they?   
      
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