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   Weak willed and timid Trump reportedly to back ceding of Ukrainian   
   territory to Russia as part of peace deal   
      
   Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan   
   for Kyiv to give up Donbas region   
      
   Sat 16 Aug 2025 19.25 BST   
      
   Donald Trump will back a plan to cede unoccupied Ukrainian territory to   
   Russia to secure an end to the war between the two countries, it was   
   reported on Saturday, after details of his post-summit call with European   
   leaders leaked out.   
      
   Trump told European leaders that he believed a peace deal could be   
   negotiated if the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, agreed to give   
   up the Donbas region, which Russian invaders have not been able to seize in   
   over three years of fighting, the New York Times reported, citing to two   
   senior European officials.   
      
   Two sources with direct knowledge of the talks in Alaska told the Guardian   
   that Putin demanded Ukraine withdraw from Donbas, which is made up of the   
   Donestk and Luhansk regions, as a condition for ending the war, but offered   
   Trump a freeze along the remaining frontline.   
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   Although Luhansk is almost entirely under Russian control, Ukraine still   
   holds key parts of Donetsk, including the cities of Kramatorsk and   
   Sloviansk and heavily fortified positions whose defence has cost tens of   
   thousands of lives.   
      
   Putin told Trump that in exchange for Donetsk and Luhansk, he would halt   
   further advances and freeze the frontline in the southern Ukrainian region   
   of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, where Russian forces occupy significant areas.   
      
   Trumps support for ceding Ukraines Donbas region, which is rich in mineral   
   resources, including coal and iron ore, to Russia comes as he voiced   
   support for moving straight to a peace deal and not via a ceasefire, which,   
   Trump said in a social media post on Saturday, often times do not hold up.   
      
   US support for ceding the Donbas to Russia represents a breach with Ukraine   
   and European allies that oppose such a deal.   
      
   As part of a deal, the US is ready to be part of security guarantees for   
   Ukraine, the German chancellor, Friedrich Merz, said on Saturday. Trump has   
   threatened economic penalties on countries that buy Russian oil if Moscow   
   refuses a deal and flew US bombers over the Russian leader as he arrived in   
   Alaska.   
      
   But Ukrainian and European leaders fear that a straight-to-peace deal,   
   skipping over a preliminary ceasefire, gives Moscow an upper hand in talks.   
   Zelensky is expected in Washington on Monday to meet with Trump. Europeans   
   were invited to join the Ukrainian leader at the White House, officials   
   told the New York Times.   
      
   Trump claimed on Saturday in his post that it was determined by all that it   
   was better to go directly to negotiated a peace agreement, though European   
   leaders indicated this was not their view.   
      
   A joint statement issued by European leaders said they were ready to work   
   with US President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelenskyy towards a   
   trilateral summit with European support but it will be up to Ukraine to   
   make decisions on its territory. International borders must not be changed   
   by force.   
      
   The statement was signed by the European Commission president, Ursula von   
   der Leyen; the French president, Emmanuel Macron; the Italian prime   
   minister, Giorgia Meloni; the German chancellor, Friedrich Merz; the   
   British prime minister, Keir Starmer; the Finnish president, Alexander   
   Stubb; the Polish prime minister, Donald Tusk; and the European Council   
   president, Antonio Costa.   
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   They said they welcomed President Trumps efforts to stop the killing in   
   Ukraine, end Russias war of aggression, and achieve just and lasting peace.   
      
   Zelensky said in a statement after his conversations with Trump and the   
   European leaders: The positions are clear. A real peace must be achieved,   
   one that will be lasting, not just another pause between Russian invasions.   
   Killings must stop as soon as possible, the fire must cease both on the   
   battlefield and in the sky, as well as against our port infrastructure. All   
   Ukrainian prisoners of war and civilians must be released, and the children   
   abducted by Russia must be returned.   
      
   In a later statement on social media on Saturday he added that the move to   
   go directly to a peace agreement without a ceasefire first complicates the   
   situation.   
      
   If Moscow lacks the will to carry out a simple order to stop the strikes,   
   it may take a lot of effort to get Russia to have the will to implement far   
   greater peaceful coexistence with its neighbors for decades, he said.   
      
   European leaders, including Macron, Merz and Starmer, are set to discuss   
   the issues with Zelenskyy on Sunday via video call ahead of his meeting   
   with Trump, the French presidents office said in a statement.   
      
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