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   From: brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com   
      
   On Aug 19, 2025 at 8:11:47 AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote   
   :   
      
   > On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 08:56:59 -0500, chrisv    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> chrisv wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Community Oriented Policing Services" (COPS) are not regular police.   
   >>>> They are the "police substitute" that leftists push.  None of your   
   >>>> cites shows republicans wanting to defund regular, state and local   
   >>>> police.  Only federal agencies which have become bloated and   
   >>>> politically biased.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> As for what cities "defunded" the police, many of them did, only to   
   >>>> later reverse themselves after crime shot up.  (Gosh, who would have   
   >>>> seen that coming?  Not a leftist, I guess.)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defund_the_police   
   >>>   
   >>> COPS isn't a "substitute," it's a DOJ grant program to hire more sworn   
   >>> officers.   
   >>   
   >> That's not what it says here:  https://cops.usdoj.gov/aboutcops and   
   >> it's a federal thing in any case.   
   >   
   > That's what he just said, Chris!  He wrote:  "it's a DOJ grant   
   > program".  DOJ is FEDERAL.  Further, your own cite below shows him   
   > correct in COPS' purpose.   
   >   
   > "The COPS Office awards grants to hire community policing   
   > professionals, "    
   >   
   > You do seem to enjoy being wrong.   
   >   
   > "The COPS program, officially known as the Community Oriented Policing   
   > Services program, is a component of the U.S. Department of Justice   
   > that aims to advance community policing in jurisdictions across the   
   > United States. It provides funding and resources to state, local, and   
   > tribal law enforcement agencies to implement community policing   
   > strategies. These strategies include hiring and training officers,   
   > purchasing technology, and developing innovative policing approaches."   
   > - AI   
   >   
   >> It was extremely dishonest of you and Swill to try to make it seem   
   >> like it's the Republicans who wanted to "defund the police".  180   
   >> degrees from reality!   
   >   
   > Another lie.  I never claimed Republicans wanted to defund the police.   
      
   But they have.   
      
   Republican Study Committee (RSC), backed by around 80% of House Republicans   
   and 100% of House Republican leadership -- calls for defunding the Department   
   of Justice’s Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) program.   
      
   https://democrats-budget.house.gov/news/press-releases/gop-budge   
   -would-defund-police-shows-new-data-budget-committee-democrats   
      
   https://dccc.org/house-republicans-caught-red-handed-actively-at   
   empting-to-defund-law-enforcement/   
      
   Default on America Act would slash up to $10 billion from federal law   
   enforcement, including:   
      
   * $2.8 billion cut to the FBI   
   * Cuts to Capitol Police and reductions in federal grants to local   
   departments.   
   (Also cuts $580 million from federal prosecutors)   
      
   https://dccc.org/the-house-republican-history-of-voting-to-defun   
   -law-enforcement/   
      
   Lots of other examples. For example, at least some Republicans sought to kill   
   funding for 11,000 FBI personnel:   
      
   https://congressionalintegrity.org/report-republicans-went-from-   
   ough-on-crime-to-defund-the-fbi/   
      
   > Any such movements were often bipartisan and due to revenue cuts.   
      
   There are partisan examples as well.   
      
      
      
      
   >   
   >> Swill's "dare you to show me" challenge has been met.  And that fucker   
   >> accused me of "trying to lie".  End of discussion.   
   >   
   > From your own cite:   
   >   
   > "The Office of Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS Office) is   
   > the component of the U.S. Department of Justice responsible for   
   > advancing the practice of community policing by the nation's state,   
   > local, territorial, and tribal law enforcement agencies through   
   > information and grant resources.   
   >   
   > "Community policing begins with a commitment to building trust and   
   > mutual respect between police and communities. It is critical to   
   > public safety, ensuring that all stakeholders work together to address   
   > our nation's crime challenges. When police and communities   
   > collaborate, they more effectively address underlying issues, change   
   > negative behavioral patterns, and allocate resources.   
   >   
   > "The COPS Office awards grants to hire community policing   
   > professionals, develop and test innovative policing strategies, and   
   > provide training and technical assistance to community members, local   
   > government leaders, and all levels of law enforcement. Since 1994, the   
   > COPS Office has been appropriated more than $20 billion to help   
   > advance community policing."   
   >   
   > How much more wrong do you want to be?   
      
   As wrong as he can be! :)   
      
      
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