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>>>> And trust me there are a LOT of people gaming the system and some
are
>>>> probably your neighbors, the person you see driving a newer model
car
>>>> and so forth.
>>>> Those types usually have their own business, mostly cash, 2 sets of
>>>> books and a smart accountant. They take advantage of every
government
>>>> program they can (PPP, COVID,loans never to be paid back etc) and
thus
>>>> are not paying taxes on most of it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm glad that Trump is going after these lazy grifters because it
means
>>>> that more funds are available for those people who really need the
>>>> help.
>>>>
>>>> Something needs to be done because the country is in serious debt
and
>>>> the Biden administration via open borders has allowed millions more
>>>> people many of whom have no intention of working and are leaching
off
>>>> the government which means the hard working taxpayers are funding
it.
>>>>
>>>> It is not sustainable in the long term.
>>>
>>> It's always the same script: take a real issue (say, budget concerns
or
>>> immigration logistics), strip away all nuance, then repackage it with
>>> paranoid delusions and dehumanizing stereotypes. What you call
"fiscal
>>> responsibility" is just white nationalist framing with a patriotic
>>> bumper sticker slapped on.
>>>
>>> You're not just repeating bad arguments -- you're repeating dangerous
>>> ones. The whole "lazy grifters gaming the system" line has been a
staple
>>> of white supremacist propaganda for decades. It's no coincidence it
>>> always targets the same groups: immigrants, people of color, the
poor,
>>> anyone who doesn't fit the "ideal" image of who you think deserves to
>>> exist comfortably in this country.
>>>
>>> And let's not kid ourselves about who's writing this. Charlie Glock?
>>> Please. The writing, the references, the panicked tone wrapped in
>>> faux-intellectual posturing -- it reeks of Steve Carroll sock-
puppetry.
>>> Carroll has a whole stable of fake identities, all built to agree
with
>>> him, praise him, or attack whoever he's obsessed with that week.
Glock
>>> is just another echo from the same sewer.
>>>
>>> That matters, because when someone has to use multiple identities to
>>> prop up their views, it means they know deep down those views can't
>>> stand on their own. It's intellectual cowardice. It's manipulation.
And
>>> it reveals something even uglier: Carroll doesn't just parrot white
>>> supremacist narratives -- he needs to make it look like others
believe
>>> them too. He manufactures fake consensus to give hate a crowd.
>>>
>>> So when one of his sock puppets defends white nationalist rhetoric
under
>>> the guise of "common sense" or "fiscal responsibility," don't take
the
>>> bait. This isn't a good-faith conversation. It's a propaganda loop,
>>> scripted and performed by a guy so dishonest he can't even debate as
>>> himself.
>>>
>>> If you need a dozen fake names to make your argument look popular,
you
>>> don't have an argument. You have a cult, and it's made up entirely of
>>> you and your shills and other white supremacists.
>>
>> So you got caught in another lie.
>> Some things never change.
>
> snit gets caught in lies on a daily basis. At least he is consistent.
>
> Here is more about Medicaid waste.
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On May 24, 2025 at 7:00:50 AM MST, "pothead" wrote
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> On 2025-05-24, Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noone.none> wrote:
>> On 2025-05-23, % wrote:
>>>
>>> what's your point how does this effect your life
>>
>> Like the rest of us, she funds it. The U.S. needs to stop funding
people
>> who could work but instead choose to game the system. It's no wonder
so
>> many people like this, like Glasser, goofishly believe they're
smarter
>> than those they're 'getting over on'.
>>
>> "We are not entitled to have our needs met... though we SHOULD grant
>> that to those who are in need." - Hypocritic, Michael Glasser
>>
>
> Indeed.
> Public assistance was designed as a temporary, in most cases, lifeline
> to provide aid in times of trouble.
> With the exception of the severely disabled, it was not meant to be a
lifetime
> grifting operation.
> And trust me there are a LOT of people gaming the system and some are
> probably your neighbors, the person you see driving a newer model car
and
> so forth.
> Those types usually have their own business, mostly cash, 2 sets of
books
> and a smart accountant. They take advantage of every government program
they
> can (PPP, COVID,loans never to be paid back etc) and thus are not
paying taxes
> on most of it.
>
> I'm glad that Trump is going after these lazy grifters because it means
that
> more funds are available for those people who really need the help.
>
> Something needs to be done because the country is in serious debt and
the Biden
> administration via open borders has allowed millions more people many
> of whom have no intention of working and are leaching off the
government which
> means the hard working taxpayers are funding it.
>
> It is not sustainable in the long term.
You whine when you are called out for your white supremacist nonsense,
but
once again you show STRONG support and alignment with such views. Why do
that
when you deny you do that?
? False or Misleading Claims:
1. “LOTS of people are gaming the system” – This is an
overgeneralization and not backed by meaningful data. Most people on
assistance are elderly, disabled, or working poor. The myth of the
welfare
queen persists, but it’s largely debunked.
2. “Trump is going after these lazy grifters” – No current evidence
supports Trump initiating new significant crackdowns on welfare fraud as
of
May 2025. Prior actions mainly involved work requirements and budget
cuts, not
major enforcement sweeps.
3. “Biden’s open borders” – The claim that Biden has “open borders”
is
politically charged and factually incorrect. Border enforcement continued
under his administration. Immigration is complex and legal/illegal entry
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