From: Boris@invalid.invalid   
      
   RJH  wrote in news:10bjri1$hlnm$1@dont-email.me:   
      
   > On 1 Oct 2025 at 19:08:05 BST, Ed P wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 10/1/2025 1:01 PM, Boris wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>>> 1) He said this is a common problem with newer cars when the owner   
   >>>>> takes a lot of short trips, and these short trips don't allow the   
   >>>>> battery time to charge. hank goodness.   
   >>>   
   >>> Comment/rant: With all the creature comfort features, all the   
   >>> computerization and sensors on new(er)cars these days, it's hard to   
   >>> believe that engineers didn't compensate for the extra load on   
   >>> batteries. Who wants to buy a new car and have to worry about keeping   
   >>> the battery charged?  Does an older, retired couple who drives five   
   >>> miles to the grocery store once or twice a week know how or want to   
   >>> have to trickle charge their car?  I guess this is progress.   
   >>>   
   >>> Thanks for reading this far.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> I participate in a couple of car forums.  This is a too common   
   >> situation for cars not used often.  My car, for example, has built in   
   >> communications and it is always looking for a signal to do something,   
   >> such as remote start.  After 4 days, it shuts down.  I've not tried it,   
   >> but allegedly it can go over a week and start OK.   
   >>   
   >   
   > FWIW, my 2015 diesel Citroen Berlingo is used once a week for a 10 mile   
   > round trip, and maybe three times a year for 300 mile round trips. No   
   > more than 2000 miles a year for the past 5 years of my ownership. Never   
   > failed to start. Replaced the original 10 year old battery a few months   
   > ago as a precaution.   
   >   
      
   I guess the older the vehicle, the fewer 'gadgets', the less continuous   
   draw on the battery.   
      
   My 2013 Mazda CX9, 150k miles, often sits for weeks, last year for three   
   weeks, and starts right up.  It's on its second battery.   
      
   My 2013 Dodge Charger, 33k miles, rarely driven, can sit for months and   
   still start.  Still has original battery.   
      
   My 2010 Ford Escape, 100k miles, also sits for weeks and starts fine.   
   It's on its second battery.   
      
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