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   Cliff Claven to All   
   Shithole States Florida & Texas Still Ha   
   02 Oct 25 03:26:44   
   
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   They can always migrate to one of the violent shithole states like   
   Floriduh.   
      
      
   Florida’s Housing Market Reckoning: Overbuilt, Overpriced, and Now   
   Unraveling   
      
   Drive through any new development in Florida today, and you’ll see a   
   strange paradox. Fresh homes rising out of the ground. Streets still   
   smelling of new pavement. Empty driveways. "For Sale" signs swinging in the   
   breeze.   
      
   It looks like a boom.   
      
   But this isn’t a boom.   
      
   It’s the loud silence before a correction.   
      
   The Builders Keep Building. The Buyers Have Vanished.   
      
   Welcome to the Florida housing market in 2025—a place where homebuilders   
   are racing against time, flooding the state with inventory that fewer and   
   fewer people want or can afford.   
      
   In Manatee County, home values are down 6% year-over-year, outpacing the   
   state average of 3.6%. But that hasn’t stopped developers from pouring   
   concrete. In some communities, brand-new townhomes are hitting the market   
   for $250,000—a price cut that would’ve been unthinkable two years ago.   
   Detached homes hover around $360,000, often with incentives like mortgage   
   rate buydowns to 5%.   
      
   But here’s the catch: even at these discounts, buyers are nowhere to be   
   found.   
      
   Migration Has Collapsed. And That Changes Everything.   
      
   Florida’s pandemic-era gold rush is over. In 2025, inbound migration is   
   down 80% from its peak. Once a magnet for remote workers and retirees   
   fleeing expensive states, Florida has become a victim of its own   
   success—too hot, too expensive, and too uncertain.   
      
   Insurance costs have skyrocketed. Climate risks have made headlines. And   
   now, with many workers being pulled back into physical offices, the exodus   
   is reversing.   
      
   182,000 Homes. A State-Sized Inventory Problem.   
      
   As of May 2025, Florida has 182,000 resale homes sitting on the market.   
   That’s the highest inventory in a decade—and 50% more than Texas, a state   
   with a larger population.   
      
   And we’re not even counting the builder inventory. The result? Prices are   
   sinking—and fast. One homeowner in the area listed their home for $265,000,   
   after buying it for $315,000 less than two years ago. That’s a $50K   
   haircut, and a sign of what’s coming.   
      
   A Market Where Land Is Cheap—and Value Is Cheaper   
      
   Unlike urban cores where land is scarce, much of Florida’s sprawl has room   
   to expand. Builders can (and will) keep constructing nearly identical homes   
   on cheap plots—and that’s a death sentence for appreciation.   
      
   When land is abundant and inventory keeps growing, the value of your home   
   has little to do with scarcity—and everything to do with timing.   
      
   Which Florida Markets Are Falling the Fastest?   
      
   According to Zillow, these counties are leading the decline:   
      
       Charlotte County: -9.5%   
      
       Sarasota County: -8.4%   
      
       Collier County (Naples): -6.5%   
      
       Manatee County: -6%   
      
       Palm Beach: -3.2%   
      
       Miami-Dade: Now turning negative month-over-month   
      
   Even luxury enclaves like Naples and Palm Beach—once considered safe   
   bets—are in retreat.   
      
   Builders Are Slashing Margins to Stay in the Game   
      
   Why are developers still building? Because it’s about market share, not   
   margin. Big names like Lennar and DR Horton are sacrificing profit to keep   
   a grip on Florida’s market. In fact, Lennar reported its worst Q1 profit   
   margin in a decade—yet their crews are still pouring slabs in Parish and   
   beyond.   
      
   They're not selling homes. They're defending territory.   
      
   What’s Next? Expect More Pain Before Affordability Returns   
      
   Housing Data projects another 5.5% drop in Florida home prices over the   
   next year, with some regions seeing up to 10% declines. From the peak, this   
   could result in a total correction of 20%—bringing Florida prices closer to   
   sustainable levels.   
      
   Affordability is the key.   
      
   Before the pandemic, you could afford a home in Florida on a $40,000   
   salary. Today? The monthly payment has risen from $1,000 to $2,500. But   
   incomes haven’t kept up. Until they do—or prices come down—demand will   
   remain stalled.   
      
   Final Word: Don’t Mistake Construction for Confidence   
      
   Seeing new homes pop up in your area isn’t a bullish sign—it’s a red flag.   
   When builders keep building into a buyer retreat, that’s not optimism.   
   That’s overextension. It’s how bubbles burst, not how recoveries begin.   
      
   So whether you’re a buyer, seller, or investor: watch the inventory. Track   
   overvaluation rates. And remember—when supply overwhelms demand, only one   
   thing can happen to prices.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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