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|    Shithole States Florida & Texas Still Ha    |
|    02 Oct 25 03:26:44    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.los-angeles, sac.politics       XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns       From: x@y.com              They can always migrate to one of the violent shithole states like       Floriduh.                     Florida’s Housing Market Reckoning: Overbuilt, Overpriced, and Now       Unraveling              Drive through any new development in Florida today, and you’ll see a       strange paradox. Fresh homes rising out of the ground. Streets still       smelling of new pavement. Empty driveways. "For Sale" signs swinging in the       breeze.              It looks like a boom.              But this isn’t a boom.              It’s the loud silence before a correction.              The Builders Keep Building. The Buyers Have Vanished.              Welcome to the Florida housing market in 2025—a place where homebuilders       are racing against time, flooding the state with inventory that fewer and       fewer people want or can afford.              In Manatee County, home values are down 6% year-over-year, outpacing the       state average of 3.6%. But that hasn’t stopped developers from pouring       concrete. In some communities, brand-new townhomes are hitting the market       for $250,000—a price cut that would’ve been unthinkable two years ago.       Detached homes hover around $360,000, often with incentives like mortgage       rate buydowns to 5%.              But here’s the catch: even at these discounts, buyers are nowhere to be       found.              Migration Has Collapsed. And That Changes Everything.              Florida’s pandemic-era gold rush is over. In 2025, inbound migration is       down 80% from its peak. Once a magnet for remote workers and retirees       fleeing expensive states, Florida has become a victim of its own       success—too hot, too expensive, and too uncertain.              Insurance costs have skyrocketed. Climate risks have made headlines. And       now, with many workers being pulled back into physical offices, the exodus       is reversing.              182,000 Homes. A State-Sized Inventory Problem.              As of May 2025, Florida has 182,000 resale homes sitting on the market.       That’s the highest inventory in a decade—and 50% more than Texas, a state       with a larger population.              And we’re not even counting the builder inventory. The result? Prices are       sinking—and fast. One homeowner in the area listed their home for $265,000,       after buying it for $315,000 less than two years ago. That’s a $50K       haircut, and a sign of what’s coming.              A Market Where Land Is Cheap—and Value Is Cheaper              Unlike urban cores where land is scarce, much of Florida’s sprawl has room       to expand. Builders can (and will) keep constructing nearly identical homes       on cheap plots—and that’s a death sentence for appreciation.              When land is abundant and inventory keeps growing, the value of your home       has little to do with scarcity—and everything to do with timing.              Which Florida Markets Are Falling the Fastest?              According to Zillow, these counties are leading the decline:               Charlotte County: -9.5%               Sarasota County: -8.4%               Collier County (Naples): -6.5%               Manatee County: -6%               Palm Beach: -3.2%               Miami-Dade: Now turning negative month-over-month              Even luxury enclaves like Naples and Palm Beach—once considered safe       bets—are in retreat.              Builders Are Slashing Margins to Stay in the Game              Why are developers still building? Because it’s about market share, not       margin. Big names like Lennar and DR Horton are sacrificing profit to keep       a grip on Florida’s market. In fact, Lennar reported its worst Q1 profit       margin in a decade—yet their crews are still pouring slabs in Parish and       beyond.              They're not selling homes. They're defending territory.              What’s Next? Expect More Pain Before Affordability Returns              Housing Data projects another 5.5% drop in Florida home prices over the       next year, with some regions seeing up to 10% declines. From the peak, this       could result in a total correction of 20%—bringing Florida prices closer to       sustainable levels.              Affordability is the key.              Before the pandemic, you could afford a home in Florida on a $40,000       salary. Today? The monthly payment has risen from $1,000 to $2,500. But       incomes haven’t kept up. Until they do—or prices come down—demand will       remain stalled.              Final Word: Don’t Mistake Construction for Confidence              Seeing new homes pop up in your area isn’t a bullish sign—it’s a red flag.       When builders keep building into a buyer retreat, that’s not optimism.       That’s overextension. It’s how bubbles burst, not how recoveries begin.              So whether you’re a buyer, seller, or investor: watch the inventory. Track       overvaluation rates. And remember—when supply overwhelms demand, only one       thing can happen to prices.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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