From: T@invalid.invalid
On 10/25/25 2:34 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 14:05:51 -0500, Jim Joyce
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 07:35:19 -0400, Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Went to the ER a couple of years ago and had to wait over 6 hours to be
>>> seen although they did draw blood after an hour wait. By the time I was
>>> seen my problem resolved itself. Place was jammed with what looked like
>>> half Hispanics. All got service paying or not.
>>
>
> In many parts of the USA a LARGE PERCENTAGE of LRGAL American CITIZENS
> appear to be Hispanic - because they ARE. States like New Mexico WERE
> part of Mexico, and many of those citizens' families have been in the
> USA - and been citizens, long before a lot of the republican "white
> immigrant Americans" even drempt of coming to America.
>
> Frank is just letting his racism show - in spades!!!!
No, Frank is not racist. But you are an ass hole for
calling him one.
>
>> As required by law. If you can somehow get through the door, you can be
>> treated. I don't think we'd want it any other way, right?
>>
>> That's not the scam, though. The real scam is medical billing. In
>> 2024-2025 I've had medical charges of $7600, $4800, $4200, and a bunch
>> of smaller ones because when you go in for a procedure every Tom, Dick,
>> and Harry who pokes his or her head into the room feels entitled to
>> submit a separate bill.
>
> And that bill is totally unteathred to reality
That is the only draw back. All the subsidies, including employer
paid health insurance, has caused the rates to rise to four times
what things should cost based on the charges for health care that
IS NOT covered by insurance. Socialism is not the answer to
the problem.
>> My medical insurance, Humana Medicare Advantage, negotiated those three
>> biggest amounts down to $426, $178, and $151, then in each case they
>> paid all but $35 of each of them. Next, the bills got sent to Tricare
>> where the $35 balances were paid.
>>
>> Good for me, since it's always zero out of pocket, (medications are
>> always 100% covered without question), but what about the bag-o-donuts
>> who has no medical coverage, or the folks who have poor coverage. Those
>> folks can get slammed with monster medical bills.
>>
>>> If problem is not severe best places to go are hospital satellite ER's
>>> where wait is short but you have to pay.
>>
>> Around here, those places are called Urgent Care Clinics, sort of a
>> middle ground between the doctor's office and the ER. As above, if I go
>> to a UCC I don't pay anything, but plenty of other folks aren't as
>> fortunate. It seems like the country could do better in that regard but
>> we don't have wide agreement on that.
>
>
> Single pay universal health care. The Canadian system is far from
> perfect - and gets screwed over in a big way every time a conservative
> government is elected - but it beats the hell out of the best of the
> American system.
That would be why so many Canadians have to come here to get
heath care, would it not be. You forgot to mention that
the years waiting line n Canada for anything expensive is
the leading cause of death for Canadians. Your health
care system sucks based on the death rate it is responsible
for.
>
> Sure, sometimes we wait - but I had my back surgery in 7 months -
> could have had it in 3 if I hadn't had travel plans that I chose not
> to change. It will be one year come halloween. Alls well and it
> didn't cost me a cent out of pocket - I didn't have to mortgage my
> house. Between $23000 and $73000 to have it done in the USA - closer
> to the $73000 from what I am gathering for the job I had done - more
> than a simple fusion which is the $23000 base.
You should be glad it was not expensive and life
threatening or you would not be here calling
other people racists.
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