From: snag_one@msn.com   
      
   On 11/3/2025 4:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   > On 2025-11-03 13:54, Retirednoguilt wrote:   
   >> On 11/2/2025 4:47 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:   
   >>> On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 11:04:56 -0500, Retirednoguilt   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 11/2/2025 10:14 AM, Frank wrote:   
   >>>>> Not only did I have to change all the conventional clocks but even the   
   >>>>> atomics.  My watch was OK but wall clock and clock above my desk   
   >>>>> worked   
   >>>>> with zone change.  Smart watch required syncing with smart phone.   
   >>>>> PITA   
   >>>>> and I know we all hate it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'd blame either WWV reception problems or weak batteries for the   
   >>>> problem with 2/3 of your "atomic" clock issues.  That assumes that both   
   >>>> of them have handled previous time change cycles correctly.  If they   
   >>>> didn't, I'd wonder about their firmware.  I've got 3 "atomic" time   
   >>>> keeping devices, 2 of which are about 20 years old.  All 3 continue to   
   >>>> deal flawlessly with the time changes despite my condo being in a steel   
   >>>> girder building and in located in rooms with screens on all the   
   >>>> windows.   
   >>>> I'm located in the mid-Atlantic in an urban/suburban neighborhood with   
   >>>> many nearby high rise buildings.   
   >>>    with the advent of GPS the "smart clocks" can now tell exactly where   
   >>> they are and what the local time is to the decimal fraction of a   
   >>> second - - -but they do need to be able to "see" the sky to set   
   >>> themselves.   
   >>   
   >> I don't see any advantage of using GPS vs. radio signals to keep clocks   
   >> and wrist watches properly set in almost all areas of the continental   
   >> US, Japan, or western Europe where there are time calibration radio   
   >> signal transmitters.   
   >   
   > Where I live in Europe, my radio clocks do not manage to sync every day,   
   > and they do so only during some nights. And if the battery is low, it   
   > may not sync in a month. Actually, sometimes is shows a time that is,   
   > for example, 4 hours 22 minutes off. A random amount off. I simply can   
   > not trust it.   
   >   
   > So my clocks would have to be WiFi or GPS. Not because I need GPS   
   > precision, but in order to have any sync and automation.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   I use a computer program called Atomtime to keep my computers   
   synchronized . The cell auto-syncs , as does the landline . I haven't   
   worn a watch in many years , my wife only wears one when we're out and   
   about . The only times I care about are dinnertime and beer-thirty .   
      
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