From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-11-04 07:02, Clare Snyder wrote:   
   > On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 02:22:13 +0100, "Carlos E.R."   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2025-11-04 00:10, Clare Snyder wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 23:18:36 +0100, "Carlos E.R."   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2025-11-03 14:34, Ed P wrote:   
   >>>>> My GPS for navigation knows where I am within about 10 feet, the local   
   >>>>> radio station can be tuned for miles.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> My car radio has has RDS, which means my car can get the time   
   >>>> automatically. It is useless, the stations have wrong time by hours and   
   >>>> minutes.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I have a desktop RDS receiver. It says it is now 18:43, when it is   
   >>>> actually 23:17. On one of the important national wide radio networks.   
   >>>     The shortwave radio time standards (like CHU in Canada) only   
   >>> broafcast "co-ordinated Universal Time" signals (which I believe are   
   >>> "Greenwich Mean Time) and are not location specific and do not handle   
   >>> daylight savings time. Local time and DST must be handled by   
   >>> programming in the recieving device - entered by the operator and not   
   >>> "portable" across time zones. GPS based time is fully portable and can   
   >>> determine if DST is applicable based on date and location - but would   
   >>> still require "updates" if DST was repealed in any geopolitical area.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Yes, I can accept the clock in the radio having a different time zone.   
   >> Easy to explain. But not when the minutes are 17 and it says 43. The   
   >> minutes must match.   
   >   It obviously has not synced for a while - - -   
      
   The station has *never* synced.   
      
   That's the point, that the station is not synced at all. Not that my   
   radio is wrong. My radio is "correct".   
      
   The guys that installed the station or the entire network never   
   bothered, or the bosses did not paid for it, to have the clock in the   
   RDS computer synced to some hardware to keep it accurate. So the station   
   transmits a very wrong time. Which in a way is better than have a clock   
   that "seems" correct. It is obvious that it is not adjusted at all.   
      
   And all the stations I tried in Spain transmit the wrong time.   
      
   Ok, the main network in Spain says now it is 12:41 hours, which is   
   approximately correct. Today.   
      
      
   > The last one I had had   
   > a terrible time connecting to CHU - and was TERRIBLE at actually   
   > KEEPING time. Within a couple minutes a day was doing good. Trashed it   
   > a LONG time ago.   
   >   Not like my old Seiko "little running man" watch that was accurate to   
   > less than a minute a year - like WAY less. The original battery lasted   
   > over 3 years and it was never out a minute spring or fall - and when I   
   > left it in my drawer for 2 years it was virtually dead on whe n I took   
   > it out to use it.   
      
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
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