From: HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com   
      
   On 11/3/2025 6:46 PM, Snag wrote:   
   > On 11/3/2025 4:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2025-11-03 13:54, Retirednoguilt wrote:   
   >>> On 11/2/2025 4:47 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:   
   >>>> On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 11:04:56 -0500, Retirednoguilt   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 11/2/2025 10:14 AM, Frank wrote:   
   >>>>>> Not only did I have to change all the conventional clocks but even the   
   >>>>>> atomics.  My watch was OK but wall clock and clock above my desk   
   >>>>>> worked   
   >>>>>> with zone change.  Smart watch required syncing with smart phone.   
   >>>>>> PITA   
   >>>>>> and I know we all hate it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I'd blame either WWV reception problems or weak batteries for the   
   >>>>> problem with 2/3 of your "atomic" clock issues.  That assumes that both   
   >>>>> of them have handled previous time change cycles correctly.  If they   
   >>>>> didn't, I'd wonder about their firmware.  I've got 3 "atomic" time   
   >>>>> keeping devices, 2 of which are about 20 years old.  All 3 continue to   
   >>>>> deal flawlessly with the time changes despite my condo being in a steel   
   >>>>> girder building and in located in rooms with screens on all the   
   >>>>> windows.   
   >>>>> I'm located in the mid-Atlantic in an urban/suburban neighborhood with   
   >>>>> many nearby high rise buildings.   
   >>>>    with the advent of GPS the "smart clocks" can now tell exactly where   
   >>>> they are and what the local time is to the decimal fraction of a   
   >>>> second - - -but they do need to be able to "see" the sky to set   
   >>>> themselves.   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't see any advantage of using GPS vs. radio signals to keep clocks   
   >>> and wrist watches properly set in almost all areas of the continental   
   >>> US, Japan, or western Europe where there are time calibration radio   
   >>> signal transmitters.   
   >>   
   >> Where I live in Europe, my radio clocks do not manage to sync every day,   
   >> and they do so only during some nights. And if the battery is low, it   
   >> may not sync in a month. Actually, sometimes is shows a time that is,   
   >> for example, 4 hours 22 minutes off. A random amount off. I simply can   
   >> not trust it.   
   >>   
   >> So my clocks would have to be WiFi or GPS. Not because I need GPS   
   >> precision, but in order to have any sync and automation.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   > I use a computer program called Atomtime to keep my computers   
   > synchronized . The cell auto-syncs , as does the landline . I haven't   
   > worn a watch in many years , my wife only wears one when we're out and   
   > about . The only times I care about are dinnertime and beer-thirty .   
   >   
   My windows PCs time setting is taken from the wifi signal my   
   modem/router gets from our internet service provider.  Same story for   
   our cable TV set top boxes, our Roku set top box, and for the time   
   displayed on our "smart TV".  No No supplemental programs required for   
   any of those devices.   
      
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