From: snag_one@msn.com   
      
   On 11/4/2025 8:10 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:   
   > On 11/3/2025 6:46 PM, Snag wrote:   
   >> On 11/3/2025 4:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-11-03 13:54, Retirednoguilt wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/2/2025 4:47 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 11:04:56 -0500, Retirednoguilt   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 11/2/2025 10:14 AM, Frank wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Not only did I have to change all the conventional clocks but even the   
   >>>>>>> atomics.  My watch was OK but wall clock and clock above my desk   
   >>>>>>> worked   
   >>>>>>> with zone change.  Smart watch required syncing with smart phone.   
   >>>>>>> PITA   
   >>>>>>> and I know we all hate it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I'd blame either WWV reception problems or weak batteries for the   
   >>>>>> problem with 2/3 of your "atomic" clock issues.  That assumes that both   
   >>>>>> of them have handled previous time change cycles correctly.  If they   
   >>>>>> didn't, I'd wonder about their firmware.  I've got 3 "atomic" time   
   >>>>>> keeping devices, 2 of which are about 20 years old.  All 3 continue to   
   >>>>>> deal flawlessly with the time changes despite my condo being in a steel   
   >>>>>> girder building and in located in rooms with screens on all the   
   >>>>>> windows.   
   >>>>>> I'm located in the mid-Atlantic in an urban/suburban neighborhood with   
   >>>>>> many nearby high rise buildings.   
   >>>>>     with the advent of GPS the "smart clocks" can now tell exactly   
   where   
   >>>>> they are and what the local time is to the decimal fraction of a   
   >>>>> second - - -but they do need to be able to "see" the sky to set   
   >>>>> themselves.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I don't see any advantage of using GPS vs. radio signals to keep clocks   
   >>>> and wrist watches properly set in almost all areas of the continental   
   >>>> US, Japan, or western Europe where there are time calibration radio   
   >>>> signal transmitters.   
   >>>   
   >>> Where I live in Europe, my radio clocks do not manage to sync every day,   
   >>> and they do so only during some nights. And if the battery is low, it   
   >>> may not sync in a month. Actually, sometimes is shows a time that is,   
   >>> for example, 4 hours 22 minutes off. A random amount off. I simply can   
   >>> not trust it.   
   >>>   
   >>> So my clocks would have to be WiFi or GPS. Not because I need GPS   
   >>> precision, but in order to have any sync and automation.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >> I use a computer program called Atomtime to keep my computers   
   >> synchronized . The cell auto-syncs , as does the landline . I haven't   
   >> worn a watch in many years , my wife only wears one when we're out and   
   >> about . The only times I care about are dinnertime and beer-thirty .   
   >>   
   > My windows PCs time setting is taken from the wifi signal my   
   > modem/router gets from our internet service provider.  Same story for   
   > our cable TV set top boxes, our Roku set top box, and for the time   
   > displayed on our "smart TV".  No No supplemental programs required for   
   > any of those devices.   
   >   
      
      There is a Windows time sync , but it only updates like once a week .   
   I got the Atomtime program like 25 years ago when I was deep into   
   restoring old comps to give to the neighborhood kids . It was useful to   
   check the timekeeping on those old boxes . (think P4 and older comps)   
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