From: clare@snyder.on.ca   
      
   On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 17:58:51 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 2025-11-05, Retirednoguilt  wrote:   
   >> On 11/4/2025 1:47 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-11-04, Retirednoguilt  wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/4/2025 9:46 AM, Ed P wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/4/2025 9:10 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> My windows PCs time setting is taken from the wifi signal my   
   >>>>>> modem/router gets from our internet service provider.  Same story for   
   >>>>>> our cable TV set top boxes, our Roku set top box, and for the time   
   >>>>>> displayed on our "smart TV".  No No supplemental programs required for   
   >>>>>> any of those devices.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> All you need now is a Wi-Fi enabled microwave.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> My friend has a beach home and that is where I stay with her.  Next week   
   >>>>> is the first visit since time change so I will reset the oven and   
   >>>>> microwave.  I did that last visit in May.  I'm thinking that may be the   
   >>>>> only reason she invites me.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'm not a fan of "smart" home appliances.   
   >>>   
   >>> Neither am I.  However, the dishwasher that we decided on has next   
   >>> to nothing to set or display its features.  I have to use an app   
   >>> on my phone to find out when it's out of rinse aid.  I suppose I   
   >>> could top it up every week, but that sounds too much like work.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Sometimes the old way is more reliable and less expensive.   
   >   
   >Less expensive for us.  Less profitable for dishwasher manufacturers.   
   >   
   >I just ordered a new fridge.  It was difficult to find a french-door   
   >fridge with icemaker and without ice or water dispenser.   
   >   
   >> My   
   >> dishwasher has a little plastic window in the rinse aid compartment.  My   
   >> rinse aid is bright blue.  When the window shows a bright blue color, I   
   >> know there's enough rinse aid for the next load.  When it is black, it's   
   >> time to refill the compartment.  No circuit boards, sensors, apps   
   >> required.  Totally reliable.   
   >   
   >Yes, I wish my dishwasher had that.  But we never choose a dishwasher   
   >because it has an inspection port for rinse aid.   
   >   
   >I chose for reliability.  We'll see how that goes.  It's only   
   >coming up on its first birthday.   
    My wife's dishwasher just celebrated it's 73rd birthday and it has   
   only broken down twice. The only problem is she complains it tends to   
   be "kick start" - - -   
   She exagerates, of course - she has never had to 'Kick" it put she   
   sometimes resorts to prodding - - - -   
      
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