From: clare@snyder.on.ca   
      
   On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 09:05:50 -0500, Retirednoguilt   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 11/4/2025 1:02 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 02:22:13 +0100, "Carlos E.R."   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2025-11-04 00:10, Clare Snyder wrote:   
   >>>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 23:18:36 +0100, "Carlos E.R."   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2025-11-03 14:34, Ed P wrote:   
   >>>>>> My GPS for navigation knows where I am within about 10 feet, the local   
   >>>>>> radio station can be tuned for miles.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> My car radio has has RDS, which means my car can get the time   
   >>>>> automatically. It is useless, the stations have wrong time by hours and   
   >>>>> minutes.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I have a desktop RDS receiver. It says it is now 18:43, when it is   
   >>>>> actually 23:17. On one of the important national wide radio networks.   
   >>>>    The shortwave radio time standards (like CHU in Canada) only   
   >>>> broafcast "co-ordinated Universal Time" signals (which I believe are   
   >>>> "Greenwich Mean Time) and are not location specific and do not handle   
   >>>> daylight savings time. Local time and DST must be handled by   
   >>>> programming in the recieving device - entered by the operator and not   
   >>>> "portable" across time zones. GPS based time is fully portable and can   
   >>>> determine if DST is applicable based on date and location - but would   
   >>>> still require "updates" if DST was repealed in any geopolitical area.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes, I can accept the clock in the radio having a different time zone.   
   >>> Easy to explain. But not when the minutes are 17 and it says 43. The   
   >>> minutes must match.   
   >>  It obviously has not synced for a while - - -  The last one I had had   
   >> a terrible time connecting to CHU - and was TERRIBLE at actually   
   >> KEEPING time. Within a couple minutes a day was doing good. Trashed it   
   >> a LONG time ago.   
   >>  Not like my old Seiko "little running man" watch that was accurate to   
   >> less than a minute a year - like WAY less. The original battery lasted   
   >> over 3 years and it was never out a minute spring or fall - and when I   
   >> left it in my drawer for 2 years it was virtually dead on whe n I took   
   >> it out to use it.   
   > I haven't needed to buy a watch battery in about 20 years.  My 2   
   >watches and my wife's watch are all solar.  We always leave them by a   
   >window when not being worn.   
    would not work for me because the only time I take it off is if I am   
   doing something dangerous where it could get caught or short out   
   electricity, oe when I'm in the shower.   
      
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