From: chamilton5280@invalid.com   
      
   On 2025-11-07, Ed P  wrote:   
   > On 11/6/2025 5:47 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:   
   >> On 2025-11-06, Ed P  wrote:   
   >>> On 11/6/2025 4:50 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> For quite a few years, and certainly now, dishwashers, if used when   
   >>>>> full, require much less water that when washing and rinsing the   
   >>>>> equivalent number of dishes by hand.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     But  when it takes a week to fill the dishwasher,   
   >>>> and it needs to be run   twice   to get things clean  ..   
   >>>>     energy savings disappear  -  and my fav sleepy-guy   
   >>>> coffee mug has been unavailable that whole time !   
   >>>>    We're planning a kitchen reno  -  we'll leave the   
   >>>> plumbing for the dishwasher available for future   
   >>>> homeowners  but replace the space with some storage   
   >>>> drawers.   
   >>>>       John T.   
   >>>   
   >>> Twice?  Mine often sits a week too and everything comes out spotless.  I   
   >>> use Cascade Platinum pods and they work every time.   
   >>>   
   >>> The house came with a GE and it works well, but my preference if buying   
   >>> new would be Kitchen Aid.  They always did a great job too.   
   >>   
   >> We had a late-model Kitchenaid and shitcanned it after four months.   
   >> On the bottom, in the front, it had a very shallow drip tray with a   
   >> float and a pump.  The damned thing was designed to leak.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Maybe things changed, but had three of them in two houses over many   
   > years and all were excellent.   
      
   I think they had a design change in the last few years.  My   
   mother's Kitchenaid (purchased in 2022 or 2023) didn't have that   
   misfeature.  Mine (purchased in 2024) did.   
      
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   Cindy Hamilton   
      
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