From: HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com   
      
   On 11/6/2025 4:50 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:   
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   >> For quite a few years, and certainly now, dishwashers, if used when   
   >> full, require much less water that when washing and rinsing the   
   >> equivalent number of dishes by hand.   
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   >   But  when it takes a week to fill the dishwasher,   
   > and it needs to be run   twice   to get things clean  ..   
   >   energy savings disappear  -  and my fav sleepy-guy   
   > coffee mug has been unavailable that whole time !   
   >  We're planning a kitchen reno  -  we'll leave the   
   > plumbing for the dishwasher available for future   
   > homeowners  but replace the space with some storage   
   > drawers.   
   >     John T.   
      
   We generally take 4-5 days to fill our dishwasher and only run it when   
   we have a full load.  We don't pre-rinse, only scrape visible stuff off   
   the plates before loading them.  Everything comes out clean after one   
   "automatic" cycle, even the items that were sitting in the dishwasher   
   for days and the stuff that needs to be washed away has dried on.  And,   
   we have what I consider an economy model dishwasher.  So many causes of   
   poor cleaning - slime around the filter and drain areas, dirty filters,   
   water not hot enough, improper loading, clogged ports on the rotating   
   washer arms, insufficient or cheap detergent, choosing too short a   
   cycle, etc.  I'm not in the appliance business but have been using   
   dishwashers for more than 50 years and have personally experienced all   
   those issues and resolved them myself by trial and error.   
      
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