From: clare@snyder.on.ca
On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 10:25:14 -0500, Retirednoguilt
wrote:
>On 11/7/2025 11:46 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 10:07:31 -0500, Retirednoguilt
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/6/2025 5:33 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>>> On 11/6/2025 4:50 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For quite a few years, and certainly now, dishwashers, if used when
>>>>>> full, require much less water that when washing and rinsing the
>>>>>> equivalent number of dishes by hand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But when it takes a week to fill the dishwasher,
>>>>> and it needs to be run twice to get things clean ..
>>>>> energy savings disappear - and my fav sleepy-guy
>>>>> coffee mug has been unavailable that whole time !
>>>>> We're planning a kitchen reno - we'll leave the
>>>>> plumbing for the dishwasher available for future
>>>>> homeowners but replace the space with some storage
>>>>> drawers.
>>>>> John T.
>>>>
>>>> Twice? Mine often sits a week too and everything comes out spotless. I
>>>> use Cascade Platinum pods and they work every time.
>>>>
>>>> The house came with a GE and it works well, but my preference if buying
>>>> new would be Kitchen Aid. They always did a great job too.
>>>
>>> I'd advise a little research before plunging deep into your pocket to
>>> pay for a Kitchen Aid. Many years ago they were excellent. For our
>>> previous home, my parents bought us a top model Kitchen Aid dishwasher
>>> as their housewarming present as a replacement for the 15 year old
>>> builder's quality whatever brand that came with the house. We were
>>> never impressed. For several decades they've had reliability/quality
>>> control problems. It died after only about 12 years of very light use
>>> but multiple repairs. We replaced it with a mid-range GE that was still
>>> going strong when sold the house about 30 years later. Maybe Kitchen
>>> Aid has overcome their problems and are top rated again. I've had no
>>> need to shop for a new dishwasher so I haven't kept up with the recent
>>> ratings.
>> Most of my friends who DO have the "mechanical version" have BOSCH and
>> won't have anything else. Not sure if it is still true but WAS the
>> only didhwasher brand BUILT IN THE USA.
>> They are all hoping they continue to work at least until after 2028
>> when hopefully the tarriff stupidity ends
>
>Clare, I usually find myself completely agreeing with what you post.
>However, in this case, it sounds as if perhaps patriotism has superseded
>fact? BOSCH may or may not be the highest quality dishwasher made but
>it sounds as if you might be attributing that status to its manufacture
>in the USA. I think we're both old enough to remember when German and
>then Japanese cameras replaced Kodak as the highest quality commercially
>available camera for amateur photographers. Also, the first
>commercially available wrist watch with a quartz movement was introduced
>by Seiko in 1969 and was much more accurate than the best commercially
>available mechanical wrist watch movements made anywhere in the world. I
>certainly consider myself patriotic; I served 30 years in uniform in the
>U.S. military. I prefer to buy American if there's a choice of products
>of equal quality and price that meet my needs. But I don't feel
>disloyal if I choose a product of foreign manufacture if there's no
>comparable American product.
Patriotism??? No way - I'm CANADIAN.
It just happens that in this case, the german brand American built
product actually IS a good product. Dead quiet - parts availability
when required, and a good clean (according to my Canadian friends.)
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