From: clare@snyder.on.ca
On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 09:35:15 -0500, Retirednoguilt
wrote:
>On 11/9/2025 10:44 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Nov 2025 22:36:17 -0500, Clare Snyder
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 12:14:14 -0500, Retirednoguilt
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/8/2025 11:42 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 10:25:14 -0500, Retirednoguilt
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/7/2025 11:46 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 10:07:31 -0500, Retirednoguilt
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/6/2025 5:33 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/2025 4:50 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For quite a few years, and certainly now, dishwashers, if used when
>>>>>>>>>>> full, require much less water that when washing and rinsing the
>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent number of dishes by hand.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But when it takes a week to fill the dishwasher,
>>>>>>>>>> and it needs to be run twice to get things clean ..
>>>>>>>>>> energy savings disappear - and my fav sleepy-guy
>>>>>>>>>> coffee mug has been unavailable that whole time !
>>>>>>>>>> We're planning a kitchen reno - we'll leave the
>>>>>>>>>> plumbing for the dishwasher available for future
>>>>>>>>>> homeowners but replace the space with some storage
>>>>>>>>>> drawers.
>>>>>>>>>> John T.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Twice? Mine often sits a week too and everything comes out
spotless. I
>>>>>>>>> use Cascade Platinum pods and they work every time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The house came with a GE and it works well, but my preference if
buying
>>>>>>>>> new would be Kitchen Aid. They always did a great job too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd advise a little research before plunging deep into your pocket to
>>>>>>>> pay for a Kitchen Aid. Many years ago they were excellent. For our
>>>>>>>> previous home, my parents bought us a top model Kitchen Aid dishwasher
>>>>>>>> as their housewarming present as a replacement for the 15 year old
>>>>>>>> builder's quality whatever brand that came with the house. We were
>>>>>>>> never impressed. For several decades they've had reliability/quality
>>>>>>>> control problems. It died after only about 12 years of very light use
>>>>>>>> but multiple repairs. We replaced it with a mid-range GE that was
still
>>>>>>>> going strong when sold the house about 30 years later. Maybe Kitchen
>>>>>>>> Aid has overcome their problems and are top rated again. I've had no
>>>>>>>> need to shop for a new dishwasher so I haven't kept up with the recent
>>>>>>>> ratings.
>>>>>>> Most of my friends who DO have the "mechanical version" have BOSCH and
>>>>>>> won't have anything else. Not sure if it is still true but WAS the
>>>>>>> only didhwasher brand BUILT IN THE USA.
>>>>>>> They are all hoping they continue to work at least until after 2028
>>>>>>> when hopefully the tarriff stupidity ends
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clare, I usually find myself completely agreeing with what you post.
>>>>>> However, in this case, it sounds as if perhaps patriotism has superseded
>>>>>> fact? BOSCH may or may not be the highest quality dishwasher made but
>>>>>> it sounds as if you might be attributing that status to its manufacture
>>>>>> in the USA. I think we're both old enough to remember when German and
>>>>>> then Japanese cameras replaced Kodak as the highest quality commercially
>>>>>> available camera for amateur photographers. Also, the first
>>>>>> commercially available wrist watch with a quartz movement was introduced
>>>>>> by Seiko in 1969 and was much more accurate than the best commercially
>>>>>> available mechanical wrist watch movements made anywhere in the world. I
>>>>>> certainly consider myself patriotic; I served 30 years in uniform in the
>>>>>> U.S. military. I prefer to buy American if there's a choice of products
>>>>>> of equal quality and price that meet my needs. But I don't feel
>>>>>> disloyal if I choose a product of foreign manufacture if there's no
>>>>>> comparable American product.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patriotism??? No way - I'm CANADIAN.
>>>>> It just happens that in this case, the german brand American built
>>>>> product actually IS a good product. Dead quiet - parts availability
>>>>> when required, and a good clean (according to my Canadian friends.)
>>>>
>>>> I assume you're referring to the Bosch product. I don't understand your
>>>> comment re: patriotism. Frankly, I wish I had a Canadian passport. I
>>>> enjoy recreational international travel and was abroad as recently as
>>>> this past January/February. But I was occasionally looked at with the
>>>> stink eye and questioned by several locals trying to understand what's
>>>> happened here and why. I would have preferred to say that I was
>>>> Canadian so don't ask me when I was asked if I was American, but I'm
>>>> just not a person who lies. However, I also didn't enjoy spending my
>>>> recreational time trying to educate foreigners that they shouldn't
>>>> stereotype us. And, let me be clear, although I prefer to support our
>>>> struggling economy, as I said above, "I don't feel disloyal if I choose
>>>> a product of foreign manufacture if there's no comparable American
>>>> product." There's a great difference between being a zealot and being a
>>>> patriot.
>>> You need to look at the post I was responding to for the
>>> "patriotism" reference - - - And I agree with you - definitely easier
>>> being a Canadian when travelling!!
>>> I do a fair amount. In the last several years I've been in Norway,
>>> Sweden, Netherlands, Scotland, Australia, New Zealand, New Caledonia,
>>> Fiji, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Peru, Equador, Panama, Cayman Islands,
>>> Zambia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Portugal, Spain, Itally, Greece, and
>>> Turkey. Add a few more years and Morroco, Austria, Burkina Faso - and
>>> a few others - not to mentionabout half of the US states and Mexico
>>> and every province of Canada.
>>>
>>> I prefer to buy Canadian when I can - and when, as often is the case,
>>> I cannot I like to buy from local importers/resellers. Sometimes that
>>> is not possible and I resort to buying from American suppliers or
>>> through American companies like Amazon (no fan of Bezos - but ya gotta
>>> do what ya gotta do sometimes ) or import directly from China or
>>> wherever.
>>> Being a Canadian small businessman my preference is to support other
>>> Canadian small businessmen when possible and if it makes sense - - -
>>
>>
>> ALso, remember Kitchen Aid is Whirlpool, Maytag, and JennAir.
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