From: HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com   
      
   On 12/28/2025 8:06 AM, Frank wrote:   
   > On 12/27/2025 8:47 PM, Ed P wrote:   
   >> On 12/27/2025 7:13 PM, Frank wrote:   
   >>> On 12/27/2025 2:27 PM, Ed P wrote:   
   >>>> About 18 months ago my thermostat died.  It was replaced by a   
   >>>> Honeywell that keeps temperature more accurate, but has some other   
   >>>> features.  This is used with a heat pump.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It has an app on the phone that I can use to change  or program it   
   >>>> with, but, it also track hours run each day.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In 2025, I used heat for 60 hours.  That was last Jan and Feb,   
   >>>> nothing this season but Wednesday will be chilly.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> For cooling, it ran 1575 hours.  I keep the AC at 77 during the day,   
   >>>> 75 at bedtime.  When I was away for 2 weeks, it was set to 80.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Electric bill for the year $1015.  Heat, cooling, lighting. A bit   
   >>>> less than the previous year.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Gas is used for hot water, cooking, grilling, clothes dryer.  There   
   >>>> is a monthly fee just to have the meter, $229 for the year, actual   
   >>>> gas use $98.83.  This is for one person.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I imagine I track things like that more than most people, but I'm   
   >>>> curious about it.  Climate is west coast Florida.   
   >>>   
   >>> Here in northern Delaware I just got this from power company.   
   >>>   
   >>> These top categories made up $350 of your energy cost this bill   
   >>> Heating   
   >>> $243   
   >>>   
   >>> Appliances   
   >>> $77   
   >>>   
   >>> Water Heating   
   >>> $30   
   >>>   
   >>> We are 100% electric with heat pump, 2 years old since oil furnace bit   
   >>> the dust.  I set temps at 71 in winter and 75 summer. Power company   
   >>> sends notes in summer that I use 90% less than average but in winter   
   >>> note says 90% more.   
   >>>   
   >>> Wife likes it warm and often runs space heater in her bedroom at night   
   >>> which is a chunk of the heating cost.  House is 3,000 sq,ft. heated   
   >>> space.   
   >>   
   >> Your temperatures are reasonable.  When I was in CT, summer was 75,   
   >> winter was 70, bedtime 66.  For heat, we used 800 gallons of oil.  Now   
   >> it is in the $3 range. That did hot water too. 2200 sq ft.   
   >>   
   >> This house is 1600 sq ft. well insulated.   
   >>   
   >> I've become accustomed to the heat, age may be a factor too.  I remember   
   >> my wife's Uncle Pat sitting out on the porch on a 90 degree day wearing   
   >> a sweater.   
   >>   
   >> Looking at the forecast, I will probably turn some heat on middle of   
   >> next week.   
   >   
   > I agree age is a factor.  I cannot tolerate hot and cold as much as when   
   > I was younger.  I recall a long time ago, my first time in Florida   
   > around St. Petersburg, temperature was 70 and I was walking on the beach   
   > in a bathing suit and saw older residents in coats, hats and gloves.   
   >   
   > OTOH I recall first time in LA hearing a waiter complain that   
   > temperature was going to drop to 50 degrees that evening but he was   
   > prepared with a down jacket.   
      
    Went to college in upstate NY.  Normal winter evenings was 10-20 F,   
   with a moderate breeze blowing off the lake which was just across the   
   road from the main campus.  When it warmed up to about 34-38, many of us   
   went out without even a jacket and felt comfortable.  That was more than   
   60 years ago.  These days, we keep thermostat at 70 24/7 (we have a heat   
   pump and our HVAC tech says we wouldn't save enough at night to   
   compensate for the energy used to restore the temp to 70 in the AM).   
   During the day, we wear heavy underwear, winter-weight shirts, and one   
   or two long sleeve fleeces over that.  I'm comfortable but my better   
   half would prefer keeping the temp at 74.  Summer time we keep AC at 78   
   to keep the humidity tolerable. I was born and raised in the northeast;   
   wife in the deep south.  Current location:  DC metro area.  Home:  1800   
   sq ft corner unit (south and east exposure) condo about 1/3 up in a high   
   rise bldg. All electric bldg.  Hot water supplied as an amenity.   
   Electric bill for preceding 12 mos. ~ $1400.   
      
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