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   On 2/4/2026 12:25 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:   
   > On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 12:10:00 -0500, Maria Sophia   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Plumbing. Shutoffs. Inside the house. Even outside actually. Under sink.   
   >>   
   >> Toilet. Why on earth are they rotate kind. When have you ever in your 100   
   >> years life ever regulated the flow from the shutoff? It's either on or off.   
   >>   
   >> It's binary. Right? So why do they all NOT have quarter-turn ball valves?   
   >>   
   >> Nobody in the history of indoor plumbing has ever said, 'Let me precisely   
   >> throttle my toilet fill valve using this crusty little multi-turn shutoff'.   
   >>   
   >> So why are they ubiquitous?   
   >   
   >   
   >   Mine ARE all 1/4 turn. MOST installed around here in the last 10   
   > years or so are 1/4 turn.   
   > Before the Chinafication of the supply chain 1/4 turn valves were   
   > significantly more expensive than the standardt type so were seldom   
   > used.   
      
   I believe my newer ones are all also quarter turn.  Old shutoff valves   
   have been my recent plumbing problems with leaking and needing replacement.   
      
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