XPost: sci.environment   
   From: zed@is.dead   
      
   On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 10:13:17 -0500   
   hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:   
      
   > On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 22:29:07 -0500, Ed P  wrote:   
   >    
   > >On 2/12/2026 9:29 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:   
   > >     
   > >>>   
   > >>> Hybrids are also a great choice.  They are economical, but   
   > >>> complicated, and still have the maintenance issues of an ICE.   
   > >>  >     
   > >> The ICE of a hybrid should almost never be stressed, so the engine    
   > >> should last virtually forever, and oil changes could be   
   > >> infrequent. Change the coolant every ten years or so. Yeah,   
   > >> eventually they'll need exhaust work. In the case of a PHEV, the   
   > >> engine is only experiencing the wear of a backup generator.   
   > >>      
   > >   
   > >I really wish they gave the time/miles it ran on electric vs gas.   
   > >Oil change recommendations are the same as ICE at 8000 miles.   
   > >   
   > >My average for the 8000 miles is about 45 mpg. Best is on the back   
   > >roads traveling at 45 to 50 mph and then I can exceed 50mpg/ Cold   
   > >weather reduces the mileage as the engine runs for heat.   
   > >   
   > >     
   >    
   >   They  tend to hide  that vital statistic  -  they don't brag about   
   >  going  ~  35 miles   < at best >  on battery only  ..   
   > ..  that's on a fully charged, new, perfect weather,  etc   
   >   My neighbour has a Kia Sorento hybrid - a couple years old now -   
   > I'm curious about how he'll feel about it in a couple more years ..   
   >    John T.   
      
   That 35 (or less) EV range is a damned joke!   
      
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