From: clare@snyder.on.ca   
      
   On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 08:12:56 -0700, Mars Sellus wrote:   
      
   >On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 20:29:28 -0600   
   >Bryan Simmons wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/12/2026 7:05 PM, Roger Rhino wrote:   
   >> > Bryan Simmons wrote:   
   >> >> On 2/12/2026 12:02 PM, Mars Sellus wrote:   
   >> >>> On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 20:01:05 -0800   
   >> >>> Roger Rhino wrote:   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>>> Mars Sellus wrote:   
   >> >>>>> Roger Rhino wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>> Ed P wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>> Given the complexity of new cars, I won't own one out of   
   >> >>>>>>>> warranty   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>> You should consider an EV. They are simple and   
   >> >>>>>> low-maintenance, and easier & way more fun to drive than   
   >> >>>>>> gasbangers. Electricity is also a lot cheaper than gas.   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>> For most people, there's not a very good case for gas cars.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>> Urban or suburban use favors EVs - road trips not at all.   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>> EVs are great for road trips if you can use Tesla charging   
   >> >>>> stations. The others may be hit or miss.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Which means major interstates only, not 2ndry, US, or state and   
   >> >>> county roads.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >> I can't see the sense in anything other than a hybrid unless you   
   >> >> only drive around town and never use a car for long trips. At some   
   >> >> point my wife and I are going to go one long, long driving trips,   
   >> >> alternating between tent camping, moderately priced motels and the   
   >> >> occasional neat, quirky or historic hotel. I want to mostly stay   
   >> >> off the Interstates unless we're going through the mountains.   
   >> >> Short driving days on two lane roads when practical is appealing.   
   >> >   
   >> > Hybrids are also a great choice. They are economical, but   
   >> > complicated, and still have the maintenance issues of an ICE.   
   >> >   
   >> The ICE of a hybrid should almost never be stressed, so the engine   
   >> should last virtually forever, and oil changes could be infrequent.   
   >   
   >Less so the starter motor which has a regular and tough duty cycle.   
      
    But many use the hybrid power plant as the starter (MG1?) There is no   
   "starter motor" and it's associated starter drive and ring gear   
   >   
   >> Change the coolant every ten years or so. Yeah, eventually they'll   
   >> need exhaust work. In the case of a PHEV, the engine is only   
   >> experiencing the wear of a backup generator.   
      
   >>   
   >Basically true.   
   Except on MOST PHEV systems thry are Parallel Hybrids, not series, so   
   the engine actually physically drives the car when in ICE mode - they   
   are NOT constant speed variable load systems like a backup Generator   
   except on the few like the Chevy Volt and the upcoming EREV Ford   
   (Extended Range EV)   
      
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