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   From: mjlegel@mtco.com   
      
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   > On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 00:59:41 GMT, Grumpy au Contraire   
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   > >NoSurrender@never.net wrote:   
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   > >> On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:50:53 GMT, "Michael Legel"    
   > >> wrote:   
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   > >> > wrote in message   
   > >> >news:lmes20h6adrb9r5jgvatpeop4oq08l8pk5@4ax.com...   
   > >> >> On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 00:26:29 GMT, Grumpy au Contraire   
   > >> >>  wrote:   
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   > >> >> >Rick wrote:   
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   > >> >> >> "Jerry Okamura"  wrote in message   
   > >> >news:Dy8Xb.2418$_g.402@twister.socal.rr.com...   
   > >> >> >> > I have read numerious post complaing about the exporting of   
   american   
   > >> >jobs,   
   > >> >> >> > but I have a very simple question for those who make such a   
   > >> >complaint.  What   
   > >> >> >> > would you do to solve the "perceived" problem.   
   > >> >> >>   
   > >> >> >> A tax credit or other financial incentive to corporations, to   
   > >> >> >> bring jobs back to America would help, among 100 other   
   > >> >> >> possible solutions.  Don't count on it, though, at least until we   
   > >> >> >> get the current prostitutes out of office.  They're too busy   
   > >> >> >> giving 87 billion of our tax dollars to a country with the   
   world's   
   > >> >> >> third largest proven oil reserves.   
   > >> >> >>   
   > >> >> >> Rick   
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   > >> >> >I have a better idea.   
   > >> >> >   
   > >> >> >For each job exported, a 50% tax (to the corporation) based on each   
   lost   
   > >> >> >salary to go into a fund to be determined.  Suggestions are   
   welcomed.   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> Here's a suggestion: Go to the library and get a text on elementary   
   > >> >> economics...read about the Law of Comparative Advantage; then once   
   you   
   > >> >> are at least slightly educated, come back here, and we'll let you   
   sit   
   > >> >> closer to the grownup's table.   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> Ain't the truth Beautiful!!   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> Have a Fredrick Hayek kind of day!!   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> Cheerio and Hoo-Raah!!   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> Dennis, Proud America-Loving NEOCON CAPITALIST, Finest Kind   
   > >> >   
   > >> >And this law became a law when?  Like the law of gravity eh?  You   
   people and   
   > >> >your economic laws are ridiculous.  The only economic laws that exist   
   are   
   > >> >those we believe in and make happen.  Period.  Otherwise we control   
   the   
   > >> >situation day by day by our actions not by some immutable law.  Most   
   of our   
   > >> >economic theory came into place back in the time of the robber barons   
   to   
   > >> >excuse their excess and anybody who swallows the nonsense is a fool.   
   > >> >   
   > >> Try believing that when you are just one of ten who NEED...NEED... to   
   > >> buy a pound of ham, and there's only one pound available for sale.   
   > >> You'll learn how "mutable" economic laws are; you'll wish your mother   
   > >> had never met your father.   
   > >>   
   > >> Ain't the truth Beautiful!!   
   > >>   
   > >> Have a Fredrick Hayek kind of day!!   
   > >>   
   > >> Cheerio and Hoo-Raah!!   
   > >>   
   > >> Dennis, Proud America-Loving NEOCON CAPITALIST, Finest Kind Irish   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >Methinks that you are dipping into that Irish whisky flask a little too   
   often...   
   >   
   > What makes "youthinks" that? Refute me with logic and reason about the   
   > immutability of the law of supply and demand.   
   >   
   > Ain't the truth Beautiful!!   
   >   
   > Have a Fredrick Hayek kind of day!!   
   >   
   > Cheerio and Hoo-Raah!!   
   >   
   > Dennis, Proud America-Loving NEOCON CAPITALIST, Finest Kind Irish   
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   Omigosh ... you really do think that supply and demand works like gravity?   
   This fairy tale world of thought goes far to explain the world we live in.   
   Obviously there is a rudimentary and basic relationship between levels of   
   supply and demand.  But these are so basic and easily manipulated as to have   
   no useful bearing in modern economics.  Mega-corporations simultaneously   
   control the supply and demand of multiple commodities simply by flooding or   
   squelching markets.  Since business now effectively controls the government,   
   they control the flow of commerce across borders.  A good example would be   
   to plant yourself in the middle of Disneyland and go looking for a Pepsi.   
   In that microworld a Pepsi, if it could be found, might have some precious   
   value ... but in reality that doesn't happen because the alternatives abound   
   cheap and plentiful.  You buy Coke because it is readily available and   
   affordable.  There are no people fighting in the streets over black market   
   Pepsi.  We live in a modern world of huge diversity that makes the law of   
   supply and demand so general as to be nearly non-existent.  Even once rare   
   items like gold and diamonds have markets so controlled and modulated by   
   monopolies to control the price, thus controlling both supply and demand.   
   People and their actions control these variables.   
      
   You may now sit at the grownup table if you will agree to quit muttering   
   early 18th century economic theories.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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