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   XPost: alt.politics.republicans   
   From: dkat@hotmail.com   
      
   That would be outragously funny if it weren't so tragic that it makes me   
   want to cry.  Under Clinton and Gore Goverment was reduced more than any   
   previous time.  Under Bush and the Republicans Government has grown more   
   than any previous time.  Get your facts and stop believing what you want   
   rather than what is.   
      
   DKat   
      
   "Founding Father"  wrote in message   
   news:20GXb.257$Dg3.73795@news.uswest.net...   
   >   
   > "David Schwartz"  wrote in message   
   > news:4lDXb.38250$jk2.85722@attbi_s53...   
   > > Wow, Founding Daddy, you are one angry dud, I mean dude.   
   > >   
   > > And you are quite anti-American, seeing as how you hate about half the   
   > > people in this country.   
   > >   
   > > I'm voting Democratic in 2004, and if you don't like it, you can go live   
   > in   
   > > some other country, that is more to your liking.   
   >   
   > And what will you do if Bush wins big?   
   >   
   > The Founding Fathers were angry too, stupid.  And they started a shooting   
   > war over far less government oppression than the left imposes on us today.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > "Founding Father"  wrote in message   
   > > news:xPtXb.27$Dg3.23978@news.uswest.net...   
   > > >   
   > > > "SJR"  wrote in message   
   > > > news:VM9Vb.194865$6y6.3770472@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...   
   > > > > "Founding Father"  wrote in message   
   > > > > news:oN%Ub.78$ek7.88639@news.uswest.net...   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Whitewater and Clinton's abuse of women - including rape - was   
   > > > > insignificant   
   > > > > > compared to his treachery of selling nuclear missile technology to   
   > the   
   > > > > > Chinese communists, letting Osama go several times and getting   
   > > suckered   
   > > > by   
   > > > > > N. Korea into letting them develop nukes.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > (And if any feminoid wants to take issue with the first part of my   
   > > > > > statement, I suggest she take it up with N.O.W. and all the other   
   > > > > so-called   
   > > > > > "women's groups" that gave Clinton a pass on all that.)   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Brother, you are REALLY out of date!  N.O.W. ?  Maybe you should   
   > > > > tackle that 10-year stack of old newspapers and start catching up.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Selling secrets? Oh, my, the skillet's calling the pot a kettle   
   again.   
   > > We   
   > > > > could   
   > > > > sit here for months trading charges back and forth about who   
   blundered   
   > > > > where.  I'd be a little careful about continuing to bring up old   
   > > bullshit   
   > > > > instead of facing up to the present disaster -- but, now that you've   
   > > > opened   
   > > > > the box, let's talk about our buddy in Iraq.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Mr. Saddam Hussein was armed, trained in underground warfare and   
   > > > > bombing tactics, trained in spying, bombing techniques, and provided   
   > > > > with bacteriological weapons and the technology for making them, in   
   > > > > 1984.  The guys who provided this generous assistance were none   
   > > > > other than Ronald Reagan, George H. W, Bush, and a seriously   
   > > > > dishonest bullshit artist by the name of Donald Rumsfeld, Saint   
   > > > > Ronald's Secretary of Defense, who furnished Mr. Hussein with an   
   > > > > additional 60 agents from the Defense Intelligence Agency to teach   
   > > > > him how Americans spied and waged war.  Reagan, Bush, and   
   > > > > Rumsfeld did all this in order to wage yet another Bush-misdirected   
   > > > > campaign against an enemy who never even got close to us short   
   > > > > of taking some hostages -- Iran. And they brought these gifts to   
   > > > > Saddam only months after he used gas on his own people!  Little did   
   > > > > Washington know, because of former CIA boss G.H.W. Bush's   
   > > > > antiquated intelligence policy, that the bad guys in the late 80's   
   who   
   > > > > were starting to build terrorist networks were not in Iran or Syria.   
   > > > > They were in Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan.   
   > > >   
   > > > It was Jimmy Carter - a Democrat, of course - who paved the way for   
   > > militant   
   > > > anti-American Islamofascism with his moronic mishandling of Iran.   
   First   
   > > he   
   > > > greased the skids for the Shah's ouster and the rise of Ayatollah   
   > Khomeini   
   > > > and the rest of the insanely fanatical mullahs.  Then he gave the Shah   
   > > > sanctuary, leading to the seizure of the American embassy and the   
   > > > humiliating 404 days of being held hostage.  It was Carter's feckless   
   > > > cowardice in dealing with these thugs that convinced Muslims that the   
   > U.S.   
   > > > was weak.   
   > > >   
   > > > So when Iran and Iraq went to war against each other, the U.S. made   
   the   
   > > > reasonable decision that Iran was a greater threat and provided some   
   > > > assistance to Iraq - just as FDR decided (incorrectly in that case)   
   that   
   > > > Hitler was a greater threat to America than Stalin and aided the   
   latter   
   > > > against the former.   
   > > >   
   > > > That's what happens when the U.S. is not strong enough to fend for   
   > itself   
   > > > and has to make alliances with disgusting despots.  Since Reagan won   
   the   
   > > > Cold War (with most Democrats - Kerry included - actively opposing   
   him),   
   > > the   
   > > > U.S. has had the capacity to be that strong.  But most of the   
   Democrats,   
   > > > particularly Clinton, and even some Republicans who would rather buy   
   > votes   
   > > > with unconstitutional federal social welfare programs, have prevented   
   > > that.   
   > > >   
   > > > And if it were not for Carter's weakness against the Soviet Union,   
   they   
   > > > might not have invaded Afghanistan, which started the Mujahadeeh   
   going,   
   > > bin   
   > > > Laden among them.   
   > > >   
   > > > And perhaps if the Democrats had not waged jihad against our   
   > intelligence   
   > > > services, we might have had some better idea what was going on among   
   > > Middle   
   > > > East fanatics.   
   > > >   
   > > > It would be nice if we were energy independent and could tell Saudi   
   > Arabia   
   > > > to kiss off.  If left wing environmental nuts had not destroyed our   
   > > nuclear   
   > > > energy programs and kept us from developing our own resources we could   
   > be   
   > > > close.   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > When it comes to national security, every single Democrat president   
   > since   
   > > > Truman, who had the guts to drop two A-bombs on Japan and saving   
   > hundreds   
   > > of   
   > > > thousands of lives, both American and Japanese, has been a pitiful   
   > coward   
   > > in   
   > > > the face of threats to this country.  And Kerry will be even worse.   
   If   
   > > John   
   > > > F'ing Kerry is elected, we will be turning U.S. military to the f'ing   
   > > > French, who base their foreign policy decisions on who offers them the   
   > > > biggest bribes.   
   > > >   
   > > > > Every time I hear an ignorant right-wing parrot point to the   
   excesses   
   > > > > of someone other than another ignorant right-wing parrot, I can   
   > > > > find a ton of charges to levy against the right.   
   > > >   
      
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