XPost: alt.terrorism.world-trade-center, soc.culture.usa, alt.activism   
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   From: pinkfloppybitsdatstank@hotmail.com   
      
   .impervious wrote:   
   > In news:VqPXb.25277$1S1.12777@nwrddc01.gnilink.net,   
   > CH attempted to impart some wisdom, instead sputtering:   
   >   
   >>> No you cannot argue the facts. The fact is that Bush did nothing   
   >>> when he came into office. Except re-empower the terrorists.   
   >>   
   >> If Bush had 8 years like Clintoon did, we would not be here today,   
   >> 9-11 would not have happened.   
   >   
   > here is where your logic is flawed - Clinton *didn't* have 8 years to   
   > stop the attack that happened on his watch...  he had thirty-eight   
   > days. Bush had nine months.   
      
   Clinton had 8 years minus 38 days to ensure that the perpetrators of the   
   first WTC attack were stopped from ever attacking America again. He did   
   nothing except prosecute the underlings, he let the major players go. They   
   attacked two embassies killing US citizens and foreigners, he let them go,   
   he did nothing. They attacked an American warship, killed 17 American   
   servicemen, he again did nothing.   
      
   >>> Yeah - it's lost me on how negotiating with the bad guys is a good   
   >>> thing.   
   >>   
   >> I know it is lost on you, but then again that is not surprising.   
   >   
   > the reason it's lost on most liberals is because we remember what   
   > negotiating with the bad guys does...   
      
   Oh.............. do you mean like North Korea?   
   And the "Agreed Framework"?   
   I sure hope you learned your lesson on that one..............another   
   Clintoon blunder.........   
      
   > like putting weapons in the   
   > hands of Iraq and Iran, helping to form the Taliban, and installing   
   > countless brutal dictators in countries where we didn't like the   
   > democratically elected leaders.   
      
   Where we didn't like the "democratically elected leaders"? Can you cite?   
      
   >>> He commissioned Hart-Rudman. That panel specifically predicted the   
   >>> 9/11 attacks.   
   >>   
   >> Bullshit....... more lies. He did nothing but paper over the problem   
   >> leaving it for the next administration. Nobody needed a report to see   
   >> what Clintoon should have seen way before 9-11. He was President you   
   >> know......he was in charge....or he was supposed to be........   
   >   
   > here's where your logic fails again...  if you feel it's okay to say   
   > what Clinton "should have seen," presumably because it's so glaringly   
   > obvious, then why don't you hold Bush to the same standard?   
      
   Because Bush didn't have 8 years minus 38 days like Clintoon did.   
      
   >  i mean,   
   > if no report was needed to see that 9/11 was going to happen, why   
   > wasn't the guy who was in charge AT THE TIME keeping an eye out?   
      
   After only nine months in office, barely. After a transition to office that   
   was delayed by holding up his transition office funds for three months by   
   the liberal legal machine it is no wonder. Is GWB culpable in 9-11?   
   Certainly, he was in charge of the ship at that time so just by inference he   
   can be made to appear culpable. Should he have seen it coming? Certainly, he   
   was in charge of strategically protecting our country. Could he have   
   predicted it? No, certainly not. The difference is that Clintoon did have   
   time to do something about it, he just chose not to. He thought it was best   
   to handle it as a legal matter, a criminal matter not as an attack against   
   our country and the act of war that it was. For that poor decision the WTC   
   was reduced to rubble....................   
      
   > there is just no way you retards can pin this on Clinton, the way you   
   > try to pin everything on him.   
      
   There isn't? The truth is kinda hard to avoid.......   
      
   > i swear...  you people call us the "blame-America-first" crowd...  but   
   > while we blame terrorists, you blame Clinton (an American).  sheesh.   
      
   After knowing for 8 years minus 38 days what would you think? Asleep at the   
   wheel? Inept? Stupid? I mean come on, you justify his inactions if you wish   
   to defend him. That is what you are trying to do right?   
      
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   Cliff   
      
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