XPost: alt.terrorism.world-trade-center, soc.culture.usa, alt.activism   
   XPost: soc.culture.iraq   
   From: pinkfloppybitsdatstank@hotmail.com   
      
   .impervious wrote:   
   > In news:fxUXb.27869$1S1.6016@nwrddc01.gnilink.net,   
   > CH attempted to impart some wisdom, instead sputtering:   
   >   
   >>> all of your rambling is pointless.  it's easy to bang blame wherever   
   >>> you like, but the fact is, Bush has followed the course that Clinton   
   >>> laid out just before he left office.   
   >>   
   >> No shit sherlock, now you are getting the point.............   
   >   
   > so if you think Bush is doing the right thing,   
      
   I do..........   
      
   > and you agree that   
   > Clinton laid the plan out just before he left,   
      
   The point was that Clintoon knew there was a threat an didn't take care of   
   it. Bush did follow thorough after 9-11.....Clintoon didn't after the first   
   attack. Oh sure he spent a lot studying it and got lucky in a few cases but   
   overall he dropped the ball bigtime   
      
   > then you have to agree   
   > that CLINTON'S plan is the "right thing" that Bush is doing!   
      
   You are confusing agreeing that there is a problem that Clintoon knew about   
   and agreeing about the actions taken about that problem. Clintoon (again)   
   knew there was a problem and did very very little. Bush however when   
   presented with a very similar "problem" took immediate action, something   
   that if Clintoon had done years ago, we would not have had 9-11 at all.   
      
   > can't you even read what you write yourself?   
      
   You seem to be the one a might bit confused here.   
      
   >>> you do nothing but prove your hypocrisy, when you try to blame   
   >>> Clinton for everything that happened before and after his   
   >>> presidency.   
   >>   
   >> I am not trying to blame him for everything, just the things he is   
   >> culpable for.   
   >>   
   >>>  why   
   >>> wasn't it GHWB's fault that WTC '93 occurred?   
   >>   
   >> Of course not.   
   >>   
   >>> because it was the   
   >>> *terrorists* fault, stupid.   
   >>   
   >> It was our fault because we did not do anything about it.   
   >   
   > bah - and you guys say democrats blame America.   
   >   
   >>>  nobody can do anything other than   
   >>> speculate about anything that hasn't happened, or isn't a part of   
   >>> history.   
   >>   
   >> And that is why I said history speaks for itself.   
   >>   
   >>> history records that Clinton tripled the antiterrorism   
   >>> budget for the FBI, and doubled it overall...  that he fought tooth   
   >>> and nail with the republican congress for MORE counterterror funding   
   >>> and lost...  that he commissioned reports on the status of the   
   >>> world's terrorists and actively pursued them.  the civilian in   
   >>> charge of Iraq right now, Paul Bremer, called Clinton "obsessed"   
   >>> with terrorism.  if you choose to ignore the fact that Clinton did   
   >>> more to prevent terrorism than any president before or after him,   
   >>> you're as big a moron as you keep coming across as.   
   >>   
   >> Clinton talked a good talk that was all. He studied and he fretted   
   >> and worried, but in the final tally he accomplished very little. GWB   
   >> has done more in the little time he has been in office that Clintoon   
   >> ever considered doing. Bush is a man of action, Clintoon is a man of   
   >> words. You cannot use only words to fight terrorists that attack you   
   >> on your own soil, you have to have strong words and actions to   
   >> counter the threat.   
   >>   
   >>> why is it that republicans   
   >>> refuse to give ANY democrat ANY credit for ANYthing they ever do?   
   >>   
   >> Because democrats have accomplished very little in this respect.   
   >> Don't listen to their words, judge them by their actions.   
   >>   
   >>> fucking hypocrites.   
   >>   
   >> Nice words..............   
   >   
   > you are categorically wrong in every aspect of your assertions about   
   > Clinton's efforts to prevent terrorism.  the fact is, Clinton did   
   > EVERY FUCKING THING better than Bush could ever dream of doing, and   
   > still found time to wail on the sax.   
      
   Clinton is the worst President I have ever seen and I have been alive for   
   quite a few. He was a traitor to the American people in the worst ways. He   
   ranks right below Jimmy Carter on the scale of things accomplished (very   
   little) and right alongside Nixon for being a liar, history will prove me   
   correct on this. Jabber and bitch and whine about what I say, I could care   
   less...............   
      
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   Cliff   
      
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