XPost: alt.terrorism.world-trade-center, soc.culture.usa, alt.activism   
   XPost: soc.culture.iraq   
   From: pinkfloppybitsdatstank@hotmail.com   
      
   Edw wrote:   
   > "CH"  wrote in message   
   > news:rnVXb.28150$1S1.15079@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...   
   >> Edw wrote:   
   >>> "CH"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:RJUXb.27935$1S1.4193@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...   
   >>>> .impervious wrote:   
   >>>>> In news:6fSXb.14629$5W3.4187@nwrddc02.gnilink.net,   
   >>>>> CH attempted to impart some wisdom, instead sputtering:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You   
   >>>>>>> don't. In fact, Clinton prevented an attack.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> And just which attack was this? Can you elaborate?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> i, for one, would be glad to.  Clinton prevented attacks on the UN   
   >>>>> Headquarters in New York, the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels, the FBI   
   >>>>> Building, the Israeli Embassy in D.C., the LA and Boston airports,   
   >>>>> the George Washington Bridge, and the US Embassy in Tirana,   
   >>>>> Albania (which is considered American soil).  also, there was the   
   >>>>> much-hyped Millenium Bomber...  Clinton took out al-Qaeda cells   
   >>>>> in more than 20 countries, and CREATED a national security post   
   >>>>> to oversee and coordinate all federal counterterrorism activity.   
   >>>>> his first and second crime bills were practically entirely   
   >>>>> comprised of anti-terrorism legislation, and he created a   
   >>>>> national stockpile of drugs and vaccines in case of biological or   
   >>>>> chemical attacks.  after the Embassy bombings, Clinton issued a   
   >>>>> Presidential Directive authorizing the assassination of Osama bin   
   >>>>> Laden.  by any measure,   
   >>>>> he was the first President to aggressively tackle the problem of   
   >>>>> terrorism.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Looks like he kinda missed the boat on al queda though and that is   
   >>>> my point. al queda should have been taken out during Clintoon's   
   >>>> term not covered up with a bunch of federal funding. When you only   
   >>>> take defensive measures when you are being attacked...it looks   
   >>>> like he kinda missed the boat.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>  wanna guess who thought up the idea of a Department of   
   >>>>> Homeland Security?  wanna guess who scoffed at the notion?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> were you even LIVING here at the time?  i mean, do you fucking   
   >>>>> know anything at all?  or have you just picked up the party lie -   
   >>>>> i mean, line - that Clinton sat on his ass while terrorists took   
   >>>>> over the world?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> there IS NO TERRORIST THREAT.  Bush rules through fear, and that's   
   >>>>> why you think he's out there fighting terrorists...  he's not.   
   >>>>> he's certainly not preventing anything.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Then why am I not scared? You watch waaaaaay to much TV   
   >>>> dude...........   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> You have the uncanny ability to take a well-considered thought and   
   >>> completely fuck it up.   
   >>   
   >> Why thank you.   
   >>   
   >>> You shouldn't be scared, THE THREAT IS ERSATZ.   
   >>   
   >> WOW then 9-11 didn't happen? Shit I am so glad............I must   
   >> have had a bad dream I guess.......   
   >   
   >   
   > There you go again.  The threat is not such as requires shitting on   
   > the BoR,   
      
   Shitting on the bill of rights? Talk about a lie...........   
      
   > frightening little old ladies with 'heightened terror   
   > alerts,' and constant thrashing about with a military poorly disposed   
   > to deal with the threat at hand.   
      
   Seems to me it's the media doing the frightening. The facts are the facts,   
   3000 dead in New York.   
      
   > Whatever it is Bush is doing, he's   
   > fighting an artificial war,   
      
   Really? Wow... an artificial war.........   
      
   > or at any rate one for which the   
   > rationalizations are clearly implausible when not completely at odds   
   >  with the facts.   
      
   Just not your facts that is.......   
      
   > You want al Qa'ida?  March into Pakistan.  Carpet   
   > bomb the Hindu Kush.   
      
   We already went into Afghanistan and Iraq you are suggesting open war   
   against everyone?   
      
   > Quit supporting the kleptocracies in South Asia.  Demand democracy   
   > for aid in Kirgizstan, Azerbaijan, ad nauseam.  See that educated   
   > Arabs have some live prospects.  And let them seek education   
   > elsewhere than the madrassas. THAT's a war on terrorism.   
      
   I thought we would just call the lawyers like Clintoon did, let them argue   
   it over for a few years and just hope nothing happens...........That is not   
   a war on terror.............   
      
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   Cliff   
      
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