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From: FranzKafka@Oceania.WhiteHouse.GOV
"David Hartung" wrote in inimitable style:
>
> "Winston Smith, American Patriot"
> wrote in message news:Xns9490A10019E61WSAP1962@64.164.98.49...
>> "David Hartung" wrote in inimitable style:
>>
>> >
>> > "Winston Smith, American Patriot"
>> > wrote in message
>> > news:Xns949059154A124WSAP1962@64.164.98.51...
>> >> "F.U." wrote in inimitable style:
>> >>
>> >> > While American Forces were withdrawing from Vietnam in early
>> >> > 1972, why
>> >> > on earth would a reserve unit be activated to go there?
>> >>
>> >> Your question is typical subterfuge.
>> >>
>> >> You first need to explain why Bush made use of his family
>> >> connections (his granddaddy a U.S. senator, his daddy a
>> >> Congressman) to get into the Guard in the first place.
>> >
>> > Do you have any evidence that Bush used family connections?
>>
>> It's already been stated that Bush got into the Guard whereas
>> uncountable numbers of men were on waiting lists to do the same.
>> (Getting into the Guard was a 99% guarantee that you would not go to
>> Vietnam.) You thus have to explain why Bush could possibly have been
>> given this preference.
>>
>> Then you need go no further than to know that Bush was the son of a
>> Congressman and grandson of a Senator.
>>
>> To insist petulantly that this is not evidence is to make plain one's
>> inability to think sanely.
>
> Not at all, I am convinced that the fact that President Bush was a
> congressman's son had much to do with his acceptance into the Guard,
> what has not been shown is that He deliberately sought to use the
> influence of his father and grandfather in his pursuit of his
> commission. Consider this:
>
> You are the Commander of a Guard unit who depends upon the generosity
> of Congress for your continued existence. The son of a local
> congressman applies to join your unit, does it not make sense that you
> would bend over backwards to accommodate the young man?
>
> The very fact that George Bush was who he was pretty much guaranteed
> that he would be treated differently, no matter which component of the
> Service he applied to.
>
> To restate, there is no evidence that George Bush sought special
> treatment, although he probably received it merely because of who he
> was. Now, compare this to Messer's Clinton
Clinton? Influence???
His mother was what? The Queen of England? The Duchess of Little Rock?
Maybe she graduated from high school?
Clinton's father was.....hmmmmmm.....around??
I'd really like to know who was impressed by Clinton's family coat-of-
arms.
Really, I would.
That's some pedigree that Billy Clinton comes from.
> and Gore who actively used
> their influence to get the results they desired.
Wait a minute. You're telling me that Al Gore actually used his
influence to go to Vietnam, where just about any American could be put in
danger? Don't believe me? Then perhaps you'd like to review the
surprise called the Tet offensive, where no American's safety was
guaranteed.
It seems I recall a story of Al Gore Junior telling Al Gore Senior that
he would absolutely go to Vietnam precisely because anything else would
be obvious to all appearances.
--
The world is too dangerous to live in---not because of the people
who do evil, but because of the people who sit and let it happen."
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