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   David Schwartz to Founding Father   
   Re: "Kerry publicly supported Hanoi's po   
   16 Feb 04 09:14:09   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics, alt.politics.democrats   
   XPost: alt.politics.republicans   
   From: david_vcp@hotmail.com   
      
   "Founding Father"  wrote in message   
   news:ZrZXb.139$Xn3.67858@news.uswest.net...   
   >   
   > "David Schwartz"  wrote in message   
   > news:9ANXb.42056$_44.36722@attbi_s52...   
   > >   
   > > "Founding Father"  wrote in message   
   > > news:20GXb.257$Dg3.73795@news.uswest.net...   
   > > >   
   > > > "David Schwartz"  wrote in message   
   > > > news:4lDXb.38250$jk2.85722@attbi_s53...   
   > > > > Wow, Founding Daddy, you are one angry dud, I mean dude.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > And you are quite anti-American, seeing as how you hate about half   
   the   
   > > > > people in this country.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I'm voting Democratic in 2004, and if you don't like it, you can go   
   > live   
   > > > in   
   > > > > some other country, that is more to your liking.   
   > > >   
   > > > And what will you do if Bush wins big?   
   > >   
   > > Don't worry so much about what I am going to do.  All I'm pointing out   
   is   
   > > that you hate a lot of Americans.  You have a lot in common with   
   > terrorists.   
   > > They hate a lot of Americans, too.   
   >   
   > I don't "hate" all the people who vote Democrat.  Most of them are merely   
   > lazy voters and absorb what the hear from the media - the propaganda arm   
   of   
   > the Democrat Party.  If we set the system up so that they voted issues   
   > instead of candidates, and required they actually pay for what they vote   
   > for, I'm firmly convinced most of our policies in place would be those   
   that   
   > conservative Republicans would actively support or, at worst, could   
   > tolerate.   
      
   You are delusional.   
      
      
   >   
   > However, my feelings toward the left wing leadership of the Democrat Party   
   > does border on hate.  After all, their policies on the war on terrorism   
   > would get a lot more of us killed.  I hold their anti-military, especially   
   > their radical anti-intelligence, foreign policy mentality of appeasement   
   > that goes back at least 30 years (and is firmly embraced by Kerry) largely   
   > (but not completely) responsible for the disaster of 9/11 (on our side,   
   that   
   > is; the terrorists, of course are ultimately responsible).  Worse, they   
   have   
   > not learned.  They still think we should be treating the war on terror as   
   if   
   > it were merely a criminal issue instead of war.  On the economic side, the   
   > left wants to take more and more of the fruits of our labor.  And on the   
   > culture side, the left has heartily embraced policies which were   
   considered   
   > outright evil 50 years ago.   
      
      
   You know, now that we have come to conclusion that there ain't no WofMD in   
   Iraq (i.e. the US invaded a country by mistake), I hear a lot about how the   
   Democrats destroyed our ability to gather intelligence.  Bullfuckingshit.   
   It is possible that no one could have imagined a president as stupid as W,   
   but you can't blame Democrats for it.   
      
   And, I happen to think that fighting terror is a criminal issue.   
      
   You talk real good, and you sound so wise, but you are a whacko.  Read your   
   last paragraph again, and see how you move from hating the left wing   
   leadership, to hating the left.  Admit Founding Daddy, you hate a lot of   
   Americans.   
      
      
   >   
   > > > The Founding Fathers were angry too, stupid.  And they started a   
   > shooting   
   > > > war over far less government oppression than the left imposes on us   
   > today.   
   > >   
   > > You are an idiot.  The people who founded the United States of America   
   > were   
   > > not stupid.   
   >   
   >   
   > I think you misread what I wrote.  But I do wonder if the revolutionaries   
   > hated the Tories...  The wording of the Declaration is not exactly filled   
   > with affection for King George.  And today the left has far greater   
   control   
   > over our lives than King George ever had.   
      
   Whacko.  Care to offer any proof for your anti-American, highly inflammatory   
   and divisive remarks?   
      
   >   
   > > And, I hate to be the one to break this to you, but, it is the   
   Republicans   
   > > who control all branches of government now.  The left is imposing   
   nothing   
   > on   
   > > you.   
   >   
   > Bull.  First of all, the hold of the Republicans is very tenuous.  One   
   > switch in the Senate and we are back to 50-50.  And even now the   
   > obstructionist left is making unprecedented use of the filibuster to   
   protect   
   > what has become the most powerful arm of government and the one still   
   > controlled by the left - the judiciary.  Second, much of the oppressive   
   > burden of government is the result of laws passed long ago, and ones that   
   > are impossible to change - Social Security and Medicare.  These two   
   programs   
   > alone will soon account for 50% of federal spending, and then 2/3.  Our   
   > economy will simply not be able to sustain such burdens but the Democrats   
   > obstruct any reform because they use those - and other social welfare   
   > programs - to buy votes.   
      
   Whacko, whacko, whacko.W is getting most of his judical nominees confirmed   
   and you howl like a stuck pig when all of them don't get confirmed.  You are   
   a whacko.   
      
      
      
   >   
   > > Let me say it again, because it feels so good, you are an idiot.   
   >   
   > Nope.  Just someone who still cherishes liberty - something the left gave   
   up   
   > many decades ago (about the time they got into bed with the communists).   
   > But maybe you are correct.  Maybe thinking liberty can survive the   
   leftists   
   > is idiotic.   
      
   You are an idiot.  It is whackos like you that will get John Kerry elected.   
   No right thinking American is going to vote for someone who has you as a   
   supporter.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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