XPost: alt.politics.bush, alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.politics.democrats.d
XPost: talk.politics.misc
From: gen@allgone.net
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 01:06:10 GMT, Steven Litvintchouk
wrote:
>
>
>Winston Smith, American Patriot wrote:
>
>> James Monroe wrote in inimitable style:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:44:07 GMT, Steven Litvintchouk
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Winston Smith, American Patriot wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bush's problem is that NASCAR is not strictly a sport loved by
>>>>>ignorant white southerners (like himself) any longer....
>>>>
>>>>That's why Bush is going there:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"The deal with racing fans is that they're pretty independent
>>>>>people, and people who're independent usually are conservative,"
>>>>>said Richard Petty, who lost when he ran for N.C. secretary of state
>>>>>as a Republican in 1996. "To me, if you put all of the people on a
>>>>>map -- the working people, the rich people, the poor people and all
>>>>>of that -- we hit right dead in the middle. NASCAR hits the
>>>>>mainstream of the American people. That's the reason the sponsors
>>>>>are here and the reason the fans are here."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Have no fear. Kerry can always go back to his alma mater, Vietnam
>>>>Veterans Against The War (actually they're against all U.S. wars), and
>>>>listen to them denounce "U.S. imperialism".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-- Steven L.
>>>
>>>You're in favor of US imperialism?
>>
>>
>> The Message IDs you can insert directly in Google:
>>
>> Quotes from Steven L.:
>>
>>
>>>Iraq is for the Middle East what Czechoslovakia was for Europe--the
>>>geostrategic key to the heart of the whole region. That's why Hitler
>>>had to take Czechoslovakia. And that's why we had to take Iraq.
>>
>>
>> Message ID: OSnMb.3638$q4.729@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net
>>
>>
>>>The U.N. is the illegal institution. It is a violation of American
>>>sovereignty for the U.N. to stop America from doing ANYTHING it wants.
>>
>>
>> Message ID: P6iOa.87532$Io.7677848@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net
>>
>>
>>>It appears YOU are not well read on world history.
>>>
>>>When in world history was the VICTOR of a major war ever convicted of
>>>war crimes?
>>>
>>>Not Churchill, after Dresden.
>>>Not Truman, after the bombing of Tokyo in April 1945.
>>>
>>>So long as Bush and Blair win the war in Iraq (and the capture of Saddam
>>>makes that much more likely), they will never even be indicted.
>>>
>>>Winning a war means never having to say you're sorry.
>>
>>
>> Message ID: Dv1Db.1975$mC1.1483@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net
>>
>>
>>>>With the shifting rationale of the Bush mafia for the ILLEGAL and
>>>>CRIMINAL invasion and occupation of Iraq being to topple a dictator
>>>>murdering his own people by the hundreds of thousands, the United States
>>>>must now undertake to meddle with and threaten invasion of many nations
>>>>now.
>>>>
>>>>North Korea is certainly at the top of the list.
>>>
>>>Not now.
>>>
>>>Not until our ballistic missile defense interceptors have been deployed
>>>in Alaska and elsewhere. (Which won't happen before 2008.)
>>>
>>>That's what they're for. To make sure we can take NK without
>>>retaliation.
>>
>>
>> Message ID: AWyRb.755$zG1.60@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net
>>
>>
>> He once fell under the delusion that I claimed to be a Canadian when I
>> never claimed any such thing. (However, I am willing to be an honorary
>> Canadian if the Canadians will do me that honor.)
>>
>> See Message ID: 3EA5B5BC.732FF395@earthlink.net
>>
>> He also said:
>>
>>
>>>I'm giving notice to all the lefties who are hysterical about "Bush lied
>>>about WMD" that when I am proven right, and they are proven wrong, I'm
>>>never going to let them live it down. I'm going to ram their hysterical
>>>quotes, taken right from Google, right in their face.
>>>
>>>They have gone out on a limb that is going to break off and fall.
>>
>>
>> Googled by me: Message ID: 3EE128B6.8FE80369@earthlink.net
>>
>>
>> Steven L. is apparently not burdened by ethical considerations.
>
>Oh, I have ethical considerations, all right.
>
>That's why I was willing to admit I was wrong about the WMD issue--when
>I could have just remained silent. (How many other people on Usenet
>admit their mistakes?)
>
>Now the whole reason for this AWOL flap is McAuliffe's attempt to
>deflect the kind of criticism of Kerry's past peacenik track record that
>we're discussing here now. The result, is that we are now debating the
>Vietnam War. AGAIN. The most divisive and bitter issue we had in the
>last 100 years, and we're back to it again.
>
>Had the Dems nominated Dean or Edwards or Gephardt, this entire
>unpleasantness--on both sides--could have been avoided.
>
I totally agree with you on that one. I am a democrat and I support
Edwards. McAuliffe is going to be the downfall of the DNC. I hope my
fellow democrats won't start harassing me because I disagree with the
status quota. If they do then they are no better then the Limbologna
ditto heads. Kerry has too much baggage. The fact the Kerry is leading
in the primaries in many states that allow republicans and
independents to vote in makes me more skeptical. No matter what they
say the republicans want Kerry to win because they feel he is the most
viable candidate to likely lose against Bush. Dean and Edwards scare
the crap out of the republicans.
>Any of these vs. Bush would have been a spirited debate--on the issues.
>
>
>
>-- Steven L.
>
>
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