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   From: mjlegel@mtco.com   
      
   "Jerry Okamura"  wrote in message   
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   > "Michael Legel"  wrote in message   
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   > > The point is that there are NO rational workings of the market.  It is   
   not   
   > > rational to allow slave, child, and elder labor.  There are no rational   
   > > reasons for human beings to treat each other like animals and excuse the   
   > > behavior by blaming the market.  WE control the market.  Period.  If we   
   > > allowed "the efficacy of economic laws" Attila the Hun would still be   
   > > running the world.  The market says he who has all the gold rules ... do   
   > you   
   > > want to live that way.  We are headed back in that direction and it   
   really   
   > > sucks.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > What in the world are you talking about.  What has slave, child, and elder   
   > labor got to do with the economic law of supply and demand.  How does a   
   "law   
   > of economics" affect what Attila the Hun did.  You lost me on that one.   
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   You can't be this dense.  Supply and demand in the purest sense would allow   
   those with the most muscle to enslave the weak.  As they have throughout   
   history.  Considering there will always be an overabundance of human labor   
   in a mechanized world ... you soon create a situation where people have to   
   live like slaves unless there is intervention.   
      
   At the beginning of the Industrial Revolution (when the LAW of supply and   
   demand was first lauded as an excuse) slave labor of all types was rampant   
   and would have continued in America today were it not for people making   
   change.  Now we use it as an excuse to impoverish people in other countries   
   as well as our own.   
      
   Go back farther to the time when force ruled the world and folks like Attila   
   the Hun determined supply and demand because they controlled both by force   
   of violence.  If you didn't like it you could forfeit your head.  You might   
   anyway.   
      
   Throughout history people have used silly excuses and phony theories to   
   justify the greed of the haves over the have-nots.  The point I have been   
   trying to make is that these so-called laws are no excuse for tyranny and   
   greed.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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