XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux, alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: dan@djph.net   
      
   Tomos Davies wrote:   
   > In , Dan Purgert suggested:   
   >   
   >> I believe this section was amended in the mid-2000s ('04 or '05 or   
   >> thereabouts), so either:   
   >>   
   >>  A) The 'tik unit pre-dates that (and, IIRC, gets grandfathered in) OR   
   >>  B) The 'tik unit is willfully ignoring US regulations   
   >   
   > One answer from a Mikrotik employee implied that you can set the   
   > country to anything you want - but that would be illegal in some   
   > places - and so they did not recommend doing that.   
   > https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=29976   
      
   Therefore, unless the unit predates 2005, it is illegal in the United   
   States.   
      
   >   
   > But I did not find a definitive answer in my searches, but the implication   
   > is that there's nothing mechanical stopping you from setting transmit   
   > power and frequencies to anything you want.   
   > https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=56586   
      
   Therefore, unless the unit predates 2005, it is illegal in the United   
   States.   
      
   >   
   > Time and time again people asked questions about country settings, where   
   > the implication is similar to how bicyclists talk about trails on private   
   > property on Strava. It's apparently a well publicized secret that you can   
   > set a Mikrotik radio to any country you want to set it to.   
   > https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=24228   
      
   Therefore, unless the unit predates 2005, it is illegal in the United   
   States.   
      
   (note that even if it pre-dates 2005, setting the country code to "not   
   US" is still illegal).   
      
   >   
   > The analogy is that you can drive a car at extra legal speeds [...]   
      
   The analogy is flawed, in that "all cars" (wireless APs) sold in the US   
   as of 1/1/2006 (or whatever the cutoff date was) are required to have a   
   speed governor factory installed and set at 60 MPH, that the end user   
   (or their mechanic) cannot overcome.   
      
   >[...]   
      
   >   
   > Mine is set to the USA but I guess this begs the two questions:   
   > [...]   
      
   No, it does not.  "Begging the question" is a logical fallacy wherein   
   you make a conclusion from an unsupported premise, a premise independent   
   from the conclusion, or a premise that restates the conclusion.   
      
   For example - "Mikrotik makes better hardware than Ubiquiti because they   
   had a bigger booth at this year's trade show."   
      
   (Ugh, and who'd have ever thought those forced-on-us Philosophy courses   
   would ever come in handy :) ).   
      
   > PS: I suspect the USA allows the highest power anyway - but I do not know   
   > that for a fact - and I suspect that Europe allows more frequencies than   
   > does the USA (but I also don't know that for a fact).   
      
      
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