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   Roy Tremblay to actually   
   Re: Ubiquity wifi access point (1/2)   
   31 Aug 17 10:11:19   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android   
   From: rmblayrrroy@nlnet.nl   
      
   Rod Speed  actually wrote:   
      
   > I've lost track of what name the person who was continually   
   > comparing iOS and android systems who changes names   
   > every month or so or even if he is still posting here.   
      
   Hi Rod from, I think, Australia,   
      
   Actually I post to probably from a score to five score threads a day (give   
   or take), but the nyms used for any one thread are so random that I don't   
   even know what they are, given there are dozens at any one time changed   
   randomly (although only one nym per thread, as a hard and fast rule - so   
   that folks aren't confused - and every thread has all the detail needed for   
   the thread topic to be valuable - which doesn't require a truthful nym -   
   despite the very many nym-static morons who claim that to be the case).   
      
   If I respond to a thread that I recognize, I have to look at who I am at   
   the moment, so that I respond with a consistent nym within a thread.   
      
   The many nym-static people (like you, we can presume) don't have this   
   problem of remembering who they are, but you also are already pwned by the   
   aggregators, for all eternity. :)   
      
   The purpose, of course, of dynamic-nym anonymity is privacy from lazy   
   software-run robot aggregators - where I don't protect who I am in the body   
   of the messsage from cognizant humans - but - of course - Jolly Roger   
   always proclaims he's a veritable genius for figuring out the overtly   
   obvious - and where - at least nospam is smart enough to understand the   
   privacy algorithm (although he guesses people are me constantly, when I am   
   not those people).   
      
   > I want to get a simple Ubiquity 2.4GHz access point to allow convenient   
   > sharing of my wifi with my back neighbour but am rather dazzled by the   
   > range of choices available.   
      
   There are a lot of choices but the answer will be simpler than you think,   
   because your basic parameters will likely be:   
   a. Physical (what are your physical constraints)   
   b. Power (how far are you going and through what (e.g., fresnel zone))   
   c. Noise (how noisy is your current environment to 2.4GHz)   
      
   All three are easy to handle given the base parameters of your setup.   
      
   For example, as you are likely aware, I receive my WiFi feed from a   
   "neighbor" who is about 15 or 20 miles away by road and about 4 or 5 miles   
   as the crow flies. We each use Ubiquiti Rocket M5's nowadays, but we used   
   to use Ubiquiti Rocket M2s, and before that Ubiquiti PowerBeans and   
   NanoBeams.   
      
   We, like many, find it best to match equipment on both sides, but you don't   
   actually have to do that.   
      
   Obviously Ubuiquiti isn't the only brand (I've started using Mikrotic   
   equipment recently, for example), but for price-to-performance (which you   
   may be aware is that I care most about), you really can't go wrong with   
   Ubiquiti equipment.   
      
   > I just want something simple and cheap that   
   > will do a good job over about 150' and is easy enough to attach to the   
   > back of my house, either on the block wall where it can be a bit sheltered   
   > or on the wooden barge board for the flat roof out in the weather.   
      
   For something that short, almost anything will work. For example, I have a   
   spare old desktop computer in a shed which is about 100 feet from the   
   house, where I just plug into the desktop's ethernet port an old Mikrotik   
   RB411 with a Mikrotik RB52n-M 2.4GHz/5GHz daughterboard, and an old spare   
   antenna, both of which I was given by a neighbor who was throwing it away.   
      
   With that free setup, my desktop can connect to another "neighbor" within   
   miles if I wanted to set the power to the maximum legal (and where the   
   Mikrotik equipment can be set to any of over 200 countries in the world, if   
   I wanted to).   
      
   Since I'm only going about 100 feet for that computer to my home router, I   
   have the power on the Mikrotic dialed way down but it works just fine as a   
   "wifi card" for the desktop which has only an Ethernet port and no wifi   
   card.   
      
   The point of the description above is that it's easy to connect a PC to an   
   access point that is literally miles away, if the other access point has   
   the same transceiver - but if you're going from a tranceiver to the home   
   router, the home router will limit how far - but even then, I get 100 feet   
   but 150 may be too far for a home router, especially if walls are an   
   obstacle).   
      
   > Preferably with POE to minimise the mechanical farting around.   
      
   I don't know the details of your physical situation (e.g., electricity,   
   mounting requirements, size requirements, etc.), so I'll make basic   
   assumptions that others can correct if necessary.   
      
   Since you're going less than a few hundred feet, almost any "paired" set of   
   radios will work, so I'll recommend a cheap two-radio "set" for you and   
   your neighbor to each use one.   
      
   All Ubiquiti radios will be weatherproofed, so the only thing we have to   
   worry about with weather is mounting against high winds (which is what we   
   get here in the mountains). We also weatherproof our routers, but that's   
   only when we have routers in the middle of nowhere, which I don't think you   
   have to worry about - since - I would assume - your router is inside the   
   house, as is the router of your neighbor.   
      
   Assuming your house outside wall, which we will call wall1, is the home   
   with the incoming Internet connection, I'd recommend an Ethernet cable   
   running from your home router, which we'll call router1, to the radio on   
   your outside back wall, which I'll call radio1. Likewise with your   
   neighbor.   
      
   Also note that you can connect any Ubiquiti or Mikrotik access point to a   
   computer (like I explained above) or, more commonly, to a router (which is   
   what I will assume below) or even (less common) directly to the Internet   
   (e.g., to the modem itself or to a switch connected to that modem).   
      
   I'll just assume you want to go from 1 router to the 2nd router but you can   
   clarify in your response.   
      
   That Internet connection I'm assuming would be:   
   ISP > wall1 > modem1 > router1 > wall1 > radio1 <-> radio2 < wall2 <   
   router2   
      
   In words, your incoming Internet connection (I assume "cable" but it really   
   doesn't matter how you get Internet to house1) comes in from outside, and   
   then usually goes to your modem and then to your router. From that router,   
   you can have an Ethernet cable going back out through another wall to the   
   radio which is mounted outside. (That radio can be mounted inside too but   
   then it has to go through the wall - which - for 150 feet - is possible -   
   but requires a stronger radio than I will be suggesting.)   
      
   From that outside radio in house1, you have a matching radio via line of   
   sight on the wall of house2, where that matching radio is the feed into   
   house2 of house2's Internet. From there it can go to a computer but I'll   
   assume you want to go to a router.   
      
   The power to the radio will almost certainly be POE so don't worry about   
   the power to the radio. Worry more about drilling holes and routing the   
      
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