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   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   "Roy Tremblay" wrote in message   
   news:oo8nc6$19hd$1@gioia.aioe.org...   
   > Rod Speed actually wrote:   
   >   
   >> I've lost track of what name the person who was continually   
   >> comparing iOS and android systems who changes names   
   >> every month or so or even if he is still posting here.   
   >   
   > Hi Rod from, I think, Australia,   
      
   Yep.   
      
   > Actually I post to probably from a score to five score threads a day (give   
   > or take), but the nyms used for any one thread are so random that I don't   
   > even know what they are, given there are dozens at any one time changed   
   > randomly (although only one nym per thread, as a hard and fast rule - so   
   > that folks aren't confused - and every thread has all the detail needed   
   > for   
   > the thread topic to be valuable - which doesn't require a truthful nym -   
   > despite the very many nym-static morons who claim that to be the case).   
   >   
   > If I respond to a thread that I recognize, I have to look at who I am at   
   > the moment, so that I respond with a consistent nym within a thread.   
   >   
   > The many nym-static people (like you, we can presume) don't have this   
   > problem of remembering who they are, but you also are already pwned by the   
   > aggregators, for all eternity. :)   
   >   
   > The purpose, of course, of dynamic-nym anonymity is privacy from lazy   
   > software-run robot aggregators - where I don't protect who I am in the   
   > body   
   > of the messsage from cognizant humans - but - of course - Jolly Roger   
   > always proclaims he's a veritable genius for figuring out the overtly   
   > obvious - and where - at least nospam is smart enough to understand the   
   > privacy algorithm (although he guesses people are me constantly, when I am   
   > not those people).   
   >   
   >> I want to get a simple Ubiquity 2.4GHz access point to allow convenient   
   >> sharing of my wifi with my back neighbour but am rather dazzled by the   
   >> range of choices available.   
   >   
   > There are a lot of choices but the answer will be simpler than you think,   
   > because your basic parameters will likely be:   
   > a. Physical (what are your physical constraints)   
   > b. Power (how far are you going and through what (e.g., fresnel zone))   
   > c. Noise (how noisy is your current environment to 2.4GHz)   
   >   
   > All three are easy to handle given the base parameters of your setup.   
   >   
   > For example, as you are likely aware, I receive my WiFi feed from a   
   > "neighbor" who is about 15 or 20 miles away by road and about 4 or 5 miles   
   > as the crow flies. We each use Ubiquiti Rocket M5's nowadays, but we used   
   > to use Ubiquiti Rocket M2s, and before that Ubiquiti PowerBeans and   
   > NanoBeams.   
   >   
   > We, like many, find it best to match equipment on both sides, but you   
   > don't   
   > actually have to do that.   
   >   
   > Obviously Ubuiquiti isn't the only brand (I've started using Mikrotic   
   > equipment recently, for example), but for price-to-performance (which you   
   > may be aware is that I care most about), you really can't go wrong with   
   > Ubiquiti equipment.   
   >   
   >> I just want something simple and cheap that   
   >> will do a good job over about 150' and is easy enough to attach to the   
   >> back of my house, either on the block wall where it can be a bit   
   >> sheltered   
   >> or on the wooden barge board for the flat roof out in the weather.   
   >   
   > For something that short, almost anything will work. For example, I have a   
   > spare old desktop computer in a shed which is about 100 feet from the   
   > house, where I just plug into the desktop's ethernet port an old Mikrotik   
   > RB411 with a Mikrotik RB52n-M 2.4GHz/5GHz daughterboard, and an old spare   
   > antenna, both of which I was given by a neighbor who was throwing it away.   
   >   
   > With that free setup, my desktop can connect to another "neighbor" within   
   > miles if I wanted to set the power to the maximum legal (and where the   
   > Mikrotik equipment can be set to any of over 200 countries in the world,   
   > if   
   > I wanted to).   
   >   
   > Since I'm only going about 100 feet for that computer to my home router, I   
   > have the power on the Mikrotic dialed way down but it works just fine as a   
   > "wifi card" for the desktop which has only an Ethernet port and no wifi   
   > card.   
   >   
   > The point of the description above is that it's easy to connect a PC to an   
   > access point that is literally miles away, if the other access point has   
   > the same transceiver - but if you're going from a tranceiver to the home   
   > router, the home router will limit how far - but even then, I get 100 feet   
   > but 150 may be too far for a home router, especially if walls are an   
   > obstacle).   
   >   
   >> Preferably with POE to minimise the mechanical farting around.   
   >   
   > I don't know the details of your physical situation (e.g., electricity,   
   > mounting requirements, size requirements, etc.), so I'll make basic   
   > assumptions that others can correct if necessary.   
   >   
   > Since you're going less than a few hundred feet, almost any "paired" set   
   > of   
   > radios will work, so I'll recommend a cheap two-radio "set" for you and   
   > your neighbor to each use one.   
      
   I see I didn’t make it clear that I don’t want anything at the neighbours   
   end,   
   just have a powerful enough AP on the end of my house that is closest to   
   theirs so that any device they have inside their house can see my AP and   
   connect to it like they would if they have a wifi router inside their house.   
      
   They are real technoklutzes that get me to do everything like that for   
   them and are quite capable of connecting to any wifi service their   
   devices can see, but anything else is getting too hard for them.   
      
   > All Ubiquiti radios will be weatherproofed, so the only thing we have to   
   > worry about with weather is mounting against high winds (which is what we   
   > get here in the mountains). We also weatherproof our routers, but that's   
   > only when we have routers in the middle of nowhere, which I don't think   
   > you   
   > have to worry about - since - I would assume - your router is inside the   
   > house,   
      
   Yes, and is marginally visible inside the neighbours house.   
   Not good enough for normal use, particularly with apple   
   devices which they sometimes have.   
      
   > as is the router of your neighbor.   
      
   They have nothing but devices, phones, tablets etc.   
      
   > Assuming your house outside wall, which we will call wall1, is the home   
   > with the incoming Internet connection, I'd recommend an Ethernet cable   
   > running from your home router, which we'll call router1, to the radio on   
   > your outside back wall, which I'll call radio1.   
      
   I'd prefer to have an access point there rather than a router. The medion   
   wifi repeater currently under a picking bucket half way down their backyard   
   works fine signal strength wise, just isnt reliable enough, needs to be   
   power   
   cycled most days. Its in a pretty rugged environment temperature wise,   
      
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