XPost: comp.mobile.android, comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: rmblayrrroy@nlnet.nl   
      
   Rod Speed  actually wrote:   
      
   >> You need a router that is designed for outdoor operation all year long.   
   >> Regular routers are only designed for indoor conditions.   
   >   
   > IMO an access point works better in that situation   
   > and there are plenty of those that are weather proof.   
      
   You are correct that all the access points will be plenty weatherproof.   
   And they will be far more powerful than any router you'd typically buy.   
      
   Here is a picture of exactly what Rod wants to do, only the two dish   
   antenna access points you see in that photo are inside the house instead of   
   outside the house.   
   https://s26.postimg.org/hwz0upjwp/accesspoint.jpg   
      
   What you see there is an ancient Linksys WRT54G acting both as a wired   
   repeater and as a 2.4GHz access point for the Android devices, which are   
   mostly located 50 feet away behind a thick concrete wall.   
      
   The iPads and iPhone 6 wouldn't go anywhere nearly as far as did all the   
   Android devices I tested, so, I first hooked up the 5GHz access point   
   (which is the larger 30dBi dish you see in that photo) to the router, and   
   then the iDevices *finally* could get on the network from 50 feet away   
   behind thick concrete walls.   
      
   Just for fun, I also hooked up the 2.4GHz access point (which is the   
   smaller 18dBi dish antenna you see in the photo) for the iDevices to   
   connect to the Internet behind that thick wall 50 feet from the router.   
      
   Now everyone is happy in the basement.   
      
   Upstairs, on the top floor, I had a desktop computer that had no wifi card,   
   so, since I had a spare Mikrotik RB411/R52n-M radio, I hooked it to the   
   Ethernet port of the desktop, and pointed the ~15dBi antenna straight down   
   through two thick floors, to one of the routers inside the house.   
   https://s26.postimg.org/uffmbagw9/wificard.jpg   
      
   Yeah, it's hokey, but the point is that it all works just fine.   
      
   I also have a rooftop radio which connects a few miles as the crow flies to   
   my WISP feed which gives me my Internet from another mountaintop across a   
   wide valley (at least 20 miles away by driving).   
      
   In summary, I have exactly the setup Rod Speed wants to set up, only I'm   
   going just 50 feet through concrete walls inside while he wants to go 150   
   feet through the air outside.   
      
   I also have the opposite of what Rod Speed wants to set up, which is a   
   powerful radio connecting to a router access point.   
      
   And, I have the original plan that both Jeff and I were suggesting to Rod   
   Speed would be the best performance, which is a rooftop radio matched to   
   another radio miles away, which gives me my Internet feed from another   
   mountaintop.   
      
   In case you're wondering why the mixmash, in these Santa Cruz Mountains, we   
   change radios like you city boys hail taxis. I have a half dozen radios   
   lying about at any one time (Jeff probably has a dozen or more).   
      
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