XPost: sci.electronics.repair, alt.home.repair
From: _arlen.george@halder.edu
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:09:55 -0700, Johann Beretta wrote:
> I am fairly curious as to why you have not addressed the point that I
> have made a couple of times where it's trivial to put a PowerBeam (for
> example) into a configuration that violates FCC transmit limits.
Hi Johann Beretta,
Let's stay at the high level without dropping to the level of the trolls.
o Once we drop to their level, we can never climb back out of the morass
When I buy a ski mask, it doesn't even cross my mind that some people need
to be admonished to not rob banks when they buy that same ski mask.
It just doesn't.
o I'm quite a reasonable logical sensible fellow, if I do say so myself.
> I apologize if I simply missed it. But in the event I did not, why have
> you not addressed this?
I directly addressed it in this thread, Johann, & even quoted your words!
> In the event you did not see it, are you aware that using a PowerBeam M5
> 400 (as an example) with "Feed Only" on the wireless tab but, in
> reality, having the feedhorn inside the 400mm dish, and the transmit
> power set to maximum, will violate FCC transmit limits for the 5 GHz band?
This is an exact excerpt from that very post in this very thread, Johann:
> As Johann Beretta noted:
> > Both options are legal as long as you select the TRUTHFUL option.
> > It's perfectly legal to run a Powerbeam feedhorn in a standalone
situation.
> > However, why the fuck anyone would ever do that is beyond me.
> > Nevertheless that doesn't change the fact that it is legal (if odd)
> > to do so.
> However, where you can get into trouble is when Johann noted:
> > It is absolutely illegal to LIE in the configuration and choose the Feed
> > Only option when it's snapped into the dish.
>
> So, I stand corrected on my assessment that you can't set up the PowerBeam
> to an illegal power settings - simply because it didn't occur to me that
> people could/would lie on the router setup options.
See above which was posted in this thread yesterday:
Here is the quote in this very thread where I agreed with you, a priori:
> So, I stand corrected on my assessment that you can't set up the PowerBeam
> to an illegal power settings - simply because it didn't occur to me that
> people could/would lie on the router setup options.
> Mind you, I'm not advocating these options go away as I can think of a
> few situations where they could be handy (and legal) to have?
> Specifically it is possible to build a custom dish for the transmitter
> that would fall somewhere in between the two options (Feedhorn only &
> 400mm dish) that would be, at worst, a gray area.
When I buy a ski mask, it's assumed I can use it for skiing, but, if I want
to, I can use it for camping, and, if I want to, I can use it for
Halloween, and, if I want to.....
You stood outside the ski shop, you saw I advocated buying a ski mask, and
you told me to not rob a bank with it, where, much to my surprise, I found
you "could" rob a bank with it, which I agreed with you on almost
immediately in this very thread.
If you missed that post, please refer to it as I think I agreed with
EVERYTHING you said, and I did so openly and obviously, sans guile.
I'm quite a reasonable logical sensible fellow, if I do say so myself.
> Furthermore, not only can one violate limits, but one can do so well
> inside the DFS bands. Do you concede that this presents a real public
> safety problem if such a configuration is done near an airport using
> TDWR radar? (yes I know the word radar is redundant here, but I use it
> for clarification for lay persons)
Johann,
You have very VALUABLE information to share on this public Usenet potluck.
o And I have a lot of hope we can help others do what you do all the time
Let's not waste those valuable resources quibbling.
o Let's help people!
So far, one person and one person only has expressed an interest to add a
WiFi antenna so that he can throw his Internet signal from his house, to
his RV which is parked a kilometer away in an opening of the trees.
You might notice, from my responses, that I never once admonished him to
rob a bank. I didn't query whether his RV is parked illegally. I didn't ask
whether he is storing dead bodies in the refrigerator of said RV. I didn't
ask what he wants to do with the Internet (illegal bitcoin mining perhaps)?
Harping endlessly on that people can rob banks when they buy a ski mask
shows how you think, I agree ... but it isn't a necessary conversation when
all we're doing is explaining to people what they "can" do.
If you buy a ski mask - you can ski.
o If you buy a radio - you can paint your RV.
We do NOT need to warn pjp at this stage to not look at porn at that RV.
o There is zero indication that pjp is attempting to break the law
He simply wants to know how to get Internet 1 kilometer away to his RV.
Why don't we spend our energy advising people like pjp
o Where, others will learn from listening in on that effort.
Here's my most recent intentionally helpful advice to pjp
o Where your advice trumps mine as you know far more than I ever will
Can you help answer this question for this user?
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