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   Arlen _G_ Holder to Johann Beretta   
   Re: Just curious how far your Wi-Fi acce   
   18 Oct 19 21:35:56   
   
   XPost: sci.electronics.repair, alt.home.repair   
   From: _arlen.george@halder.edu   
      
   On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 23:19:27 -0700, Johann Beretta wrote:   
      
   > It's not the same. A ski mask is for skiing.  You can't accidentally use   
   > it to rob a bank.   
      
   Hi Johann,   
      
   Let's focus our insight on helping people do what we do all the time, OK?   
   O We throw WiFi easily for a dozen miles, without blinking, Johann   
      
   They can certainly paint an RV with WiFi when it's only a mere km away!   
      
   My point is that when pjp asks for help in throwing WiFi a kilometer from   
   his house to his RV, I don't endlessly harp on what there is zero evidence   
   for - which is that I feel it's suspicious that his RV is parked a   
   kilometer away from his house - I don't like that - I think that's   
   suspicously - highly suspicious in fact - so - instead of helping the guy -   
   I endlessly harp on WHY he parks his RV a kilometer way from the house.   
   o Maybe he's parking his RV a kilometer from his house to break the law!   
      
   You think that way, and that's OK.   
   o But I just think the guy wants to paint the RV with Internet.   
      
   We think differently, Johann.   
   o I'm more trusting than you Johann.  More innocent.   
   o I'm always purposefully helpful.   
      
   Which is why it bothers me that the common trolls who infest this newsgroup   
   are the opposite of me, which is that nothing they posts adds any value   
   whatsoever - and - even ignorning them - doesn't stop them from infesting   
   the USenet potluck (just look at what the trolls wrote in this thread).   
      
   > An uneducated person can buy a powerbeam, intend to use it for wifi, and   
   > accidentally (because they don't know better) choose the wrong option in   
   > the configuration, and break the law.   
      
   I think differently than the trolls (e.g., I never troll).   
   o I think differently than the "semantic expert" (e.g., I add value).   
      
   And, I think differently than anyone who harranges us on "legal" issues   
   o When there is zero evidence that pjp is attempting to break the law   
      
   It doesn't even occur to me to think the way you think.   
   o Since you clearly think that way - all you have to do is say it once.   
      
   And then we can get back to adding value on Usenet.   
   o Deal?   
      
   The guy needs advice on how to throw his WiFi a kilometer   
   o From his house to his RV   
   o Where there is only a "hole" in the trees back at the RV   
   o And where the RV has generator power.   
      
   One place you can help advise pjp (and the rest of us as a result) is how   
   you'd recommend he "power" the tree radio at the RV.   
      
   For example, would you recommend just mooching off the RV battery?   
      
   > It's a drop down menu. It can be clicked on accidentally. These devices   
   > are not, and have never been, meant for the general public. The rockets   
   > are even worse.   
      
   Let's stop harranging on the legality issue.   
   o You said it once; we agreed ... can we move on to helping people?   
      
   Another question you can help advise pjp on, and, in the process, the rest   
   of us learn from your advice, is how much power loss is calculatable for   
   penetrating less-than-dense foliage a distance of a kilometer.   
      
   I documented in this post just now a case where someone went about 500 feet   
   through what appears from the pictures to be all foliage, where I'm curious   
   what you think, from your experience, is possible to penetate with typical   
   Ubiquiti equipment such as that described in this post just now:   
      
      
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