From: JustMike@nospaminvalid.org   
      
   JustMike  wrote in   
   news:XnsAC8D723DEB0E6mikeisHere22dxxwqm99@202.81.252.44:   
      
   > Jeff Liebermann  wrote in   
   > news:kfissfh4faudq884rnhlajrci7cadofavp@4ax.com:   
   >   
   >> On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 05:59:34 -0000 (UTC), JustMike   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Thanks in advance for any helpful answers, all info is in attachment.   
   >>>   
   >>>https://i.postimg.cc/pL9MgCY5/WIFIPOST12-7-20.png   
   >>   
   >> Un-helpful questions:   
   >>   
   >> 1.  I suggest you REDUCE your transmit power to something that is   
   >> about the same as the wireless router to which you're trying to   
   >> connect.  At 1 watt and with a parabolic dish antenna, you are   
   >> probably well over FCC and international EIRP limits.   
   >   
   > Well your ASSumption is that I am in the USA and subject to that   
   > (another) corrupt agency of the corrupt U.S. Gov. I am not. Yeah Trump!   
   >   
   >>   
   >> 2.  If you're posting a JPG or PNG of your question so that it's not   
   >> searchable by Google or the FCC, I want no part of whatever you're   
   >> trying to accomplish, which I suspect is connect to someone else's   
   >> internet connection without permission.   
   >   
   > Better run and hide then.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> 3.  Your homemade dish with the long omni antenna is likely a bad   
   >> design.  Low gain antennas are easy.  High gain antennas are tricky   
   >> and need to be calculated and properly tested.  Without proper RF test   
   >> equipment, you are unlikely to design and build anything that works. A   
   >> proper dish antenna uses a fairly low gain but directional feed   
   >> antenna to illuminate the entire dish antenna.  Using a high gain   
   >> antenna as a feed will only illuminate a small part of a dish.  In   
   >> transmit, such an omni feed antenna will spray RF in many directions   
   >> EXCEPT onto the dish, or will cover only a small part of the dish,   
   >> drastically reducing the transmit gain.   
   >   
   > It's working well even bounced off a steel door at about a 45 degree   
   > angle. I THOUGHT it was my antennas but it turns out it's probably an   
   > ISP problem. They were out working on the lines but they are morons of   
   > the worst ISP here in this crap Country.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> 4.  Your PNG image lacks any usable numbers from which to do a path   
   >> loss calculation.  If you really want an answer or sanity check,   
   >> kindly supply:   
   >>  - Equipment list at both ends   
   >>  - Description and gain of the endpoint antennas   
   >>  - Length and type of coaxial cable (if any) to the dish   
   >>  - Distances involved   
   >>  - Height of path (for Fresnel Zone calculations)   
   >>  - Approximate size of the steel door reflector   
   >>  - 2.4 or 5 GHz?   
   >   
   > You always make things too over complicated. As it turns out it   
   probably   
   > has nothing to do with my antennas and your overly complicated   
   > calculations. It's the crap ISP.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> 5.  If you want to run your own calculations, grind the path loss   
   >> numbers for between the dish and the steel door, use the result to   
   >> calculate a 2nd path between the steel door and that wireless router.   
   >> I posted an example many years ago in this newsgroup, but can't seem   
   >> to find it.  Here's an example of a single hop calculation:   
   >>   
   > wU56ficJ> I'll try again later to find a better example.   
   >   
   > Thanks for answering. Don't make so many ASSumptions cuz you know what   
   > that means. And don't accuse people you don't know of STEALING when you   
   > have no evidence of that. I am not stealing the connection is done with   
   > the main ISP account's owner.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
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