XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
From: Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net
Jeff Liebermann asked
> Suggestion: When you're driving, don't look at or fumble with your
> phone. If you think it unplugged itself, deal with it when you're not
> moving.
I agree. It's why I added the huge yellow positionable charge-direction
icon, with custom preset levels for the custom sound & visual notifications.
I could have added even more, like a visible charge level indicator graph.
But all I need to know is the _instantaneous_ direction of charge.
Everything I do on Android I also try on my iPhones & iPads, but later.
>>Having personally tested probably a thousand apps over time (I'm guessing at
>>the number),
>
> The Google Play Swamp does not delete anything that you download the
> later uninstall. Go to:
> and click on "My Apps".
I don't have any Google Account set up on my Android phone (we can't do that
for iOS and still download apps) but I can list the apps installed on my
Android phone into an editable file in so many easy ways, it's not funny.
You can even list your apps from Windows by tethering your phone over USB.
List all installed apps including system apps to an editable file:
C:\> adb shell pm list packages > c:\temp\list.txt
List packages with "google" in the name to an editable file:
C:\> adb shell pm list packages google > c:\temp\list.txt
List only system packages to an editable file:
C:\> adb shell pm list packages -s > c:\temp\list.txt
List only third-party packages to an editable file:
C:\> adb shell pm list packages -3 > c:\temp\list.txt
But you can just as easily create this editable file on Android.
My App List, by Fede Fernandez (4.4 rating)
My Apps, by Spencer Studios (4.3 rating)
List My Apps, by Onyxbits (4.4 rating)
Note I will (almost) never suggest any app that isn't free & ad free,
and where almost all will be gsf free and google free & highly rated.
In fact, my persistent default search filters don't allow any apps which
don't meet those criteria to even show up inside my Google Play client
search on my Android phone (this is, yet again, impossible with iOS).
> Before the Play Swamp, Google allowed you to
> delete icons for stuff you never wanted to see again.
I'm not sure why you can't delete the icon for _any_ app, even pre-installed
system apps, because I seem to be able to do that easily (Android 11, free
Nova launcher - but I've been deleting icons for system apps for years).
There are many solutions, either use a good launcher, or use a better app
drawer app so if you can give me an example of an app icon that you can't
delete, please let me know which one so I can test out a solution for you.
> That was handy for keeping my app mess organized.
My computers are so well organized that the exact menu (the same files) work
from Windows XP to Windows 10 (yes, literally the exact same menu files!).
On Android, I simply save the location of my homescreen icons, and then when
I get a new phone, I import that saved file, and then the new phone has all
its homescreen app icons in the same location as the old app icons were.
For example, here's an APK folder on my homescreen from years ago.
Just as were my WinXP menu files, that sequential folder was ported over to
about four or five phones already where I always hone the folder structure.
> Then, they decided that once you
> download an app, you have to stare at it forever.
I'm not rooted but I still can disable most system apps, and, as far as I
know offhand, I don't have to have an app icon anywhere if I don't want it.
>>All are on by default on my setup but I don't see the widget in the status
>>bar (it might be there but anything in the status bar is already too small).
>
> I turned that on and off a few times. Nothing ever changed on the
> status bar. It's broken.
Actually, I showed in a different post it is only available in the pro
version (so they should have grayed out the option in the free version).
>>I don't know why the author wants a widget, but AFAIK, on Android, if
>>something is a widget, it's an app which is "always running" (AFAIK).
>
> That's initially what I initially thought. I have no idea how a
> widget works and will try to determine if that's true.
It's my understanding (which can be wrong) that a widget is an app that is
actually running all the time feeding the widget what to display.
I usually only have one screen, so having a widget clutter it isn't useful.
That's for an older phone but all my homescreens are sequential copies.
>>Maybe the author wants the darn thing to always be running in the bg?
>
> Kinda looks that way. It would be nice if we knew why he wanted to do
> that. I can tolerate the increase in battery drain, but only if I
> know why he needs that.
Actually, the answer is in the "Data counter widget" app's FAQ.
1. Open the "Data counter widget" app & select the "Help & FAQ" option
2. The last item is "Do I need to add a widget to use the app?"
3. The answer is that you don't need the widget.
It says the widget allows
a. You to monitor your data usage on the homescreen at a glance
b. The widget is what allows you to set up the billing cycle
If you're ok with not having those two things, you don't need the widget.
>>I took that to mean when your cellular bill rolls over.
>>I set mine to the 11th of the month (which you can see in the screenshots).
>>
>>
>>I think it's innocuous.
>>I think it just means the calculations of data are based on that date.
>
> Sounds right. I'll change mine later.
I ran an experiment which had odd results (at least odd, to me, results).
1. I set up the "Data counter widget" app settings to my liking.
2. I (easily) added the widget & customized as it desired (and rebooted).
3. Then I long pressed & (easily) deleted the widget (and rebooted again).
I think we added the widget slightly differently (in a different sequence)
but I was definitely able to _remove_ the Data counter widget completely.
This removal of the Data counter widget widget survived a reboot.
a. What remained was the "Data counter widget" application icon.
b. The "billing cycle" is set to the default (the 1st of the month?).
c. There are none of those weird arc dual-colored data rainbows now.
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