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   From: dan@djph.net   
      
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   J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:   
   > On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 13:26:55, Dan Purgert wrote (my   
   > responses usually FOLLOW):   
   >>J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 10:22:44, mike wrote (my   
   >>> responses usually FOLLOW):   
   >>>>For distance, is it true that 2.5GHz travels farther (assuming   
   >>>>obstructions) than does 5GHz? Noise shouldn't be a problem in a   
   >>>>campground but distancei is.   
   >>>   
   >>> As Dan has said, in theory, 2.5 is less obscured by obstructions than 5;   
   >>> conversely, in built-up areas, it's far more likely to be noisy -   
   >>> microwave oven leakage, security cameras, and many other things. In what   
   >>> I would imagine to be the rural location of most campsites, that might   
   >>> be less the case though. On the whole the 5 GHz band is more recently   
   >>> developed, so connections on it are likely to be faster/higher capacity   
   >>> than the older band - if they work at all.   
   >>   
   >>Don't forget that "campgrounds" can also be densely populated   
   >>(especially on weekends) with people looking to get away. A   
   >>modest-sized campground may have 100 sites (or even more)...   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   > True! Though probably won't have the security cameras, etc., and other   
   > "noise sources", you'd get in a more built-up area, and presumably most   
   > people who "get away" to them will be out walking, or similar. But I   
   > suppose if there's sudden bad weather or something, there might be lots   
   > sitting in their RVs trying to use the net - possibly enough to swamp   
   > the 11 or 13 channels on the 2.4 MHz band. Though again, whether enough   
   > of them would have the ability to use any such facility based at the   
   > site office, rather than using data on the cellular/mobile network   
   > directly ...   
      
   Sort of. There are a few key points that can become problematic:   
      
   1. If someone's connected to the AP in the office (whatever), it'll   
   constantly try connecting if it's "in range". This can tie up the AP for   
   other people.   
      
   2. If it's just an AP for the office (e.g. there's a game-room or   
   laundry or other reason to specifically put wifi there), trying to   
   connect through exterior walls can be very hit-or-miss (metal-foil in   
   the insulation, efficient windows, etc all tend to block RF - I mean,   
   it's exactly the same reason you get fuzzy TV or radio if all you have   
   is the rabbit-ears...).   
      
   3. If it's just some generic "consumer" kit, it's really only going to   
   be able to handle ~2 dozen devices anyway (limited hardware resources)   
      
   4. People utilizing their phones as wifi hotspots that happen to collide   
   with the office AP, by virtue of being far enough away that they think   
   whichever channel is available; and creating local contention issues.   
      
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