XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.cellular.gsm   
   From: spam@nospam.com   
      
   Andy Burns wrote:   
      
   >> Google explicitly says app passwords are disappearing.   
   >   
   > No, they say "insecure apps" are disappearing, "app passwords" are staying.   
   >   
   > Notice here, the red warning about less secure apps, yet they still link to   
   app   
   > passwords   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   > Or here, where they describe how to enable 2SV if you want to create an app   
   > password, with not a mention that they might be going away anytime soon   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   > I have no idea how many Google arses you have to lick to become a Diamond or   
   > Platinum Product Expert, but maybe you'll believe them if you don't believe   
   me?   
   >   
   >    
      
   The problem I have with those apps is you have to have _already_ set up   
   your email account as 2FA/2SV/MSA/MSV in order to get them to do anything:   
     Flocke free andOTP settings   
     Red Hat freeOTP settings   
      
   The problem I have with setting up 2FA/2SV/MSA/MSV is that I've never set   
   it up and yet I'm trying to understand how it works _before_ I set it up.   
      
   One "issue" I have (mostly it's a fear) is that I won't be able to access   
   email via Thunderbird/OAUth2 once I set up 2FA/2SV/MSA/MSV since you set it   
   up by account, and not by MUA, right?   
      
   So, if I do set up 2FA/2SV/MSA/MSV for my Google mail account, how does   
   that Google mail account know to use OAuth2 for Windows Thunderbird but,   
   oh, say, app passwords for K9 mail?   
   --   
   BTW, I thank you for suggesting I use Google Voice on the iPad as my   
   verification number since on the iPad, Google does _not_ create an account   
   (whereas if you log into Google Voice on Android, Google _does_ create an   
   account on Android).   
      
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