XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.privacy   
   From: erholtr@pobox.com   
      
   On Wed, 02 Nov 2022 17:54:06 +0800, 5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD wrote:   
      
   >> Why would an app REQUIRE Google Play Store spyware to be running?   
   >   
   > Because  most  apps use  Google  Firebase  for  the analytics  and  push   
   > notifications and because of that almost all Play Store apps require the   
   > "Play Store  Services" as  a soft dependency.   You can  technically run   
   > those  apps without  the  "Play  Store Services"  but  you  will have  a   
   > neutered experience.   
      
   You need to be very clear whether you're talking Google Play Store or   
   Google Play Services because they're completely different on Android.   
      
   Specifically I disabled & forcestopped only the Google Play Store module   
   and not the Google Play Services module for the test initially described.   
      
   Checking again, this is the initial test condition:   
   ENABLED/RUNNING Google Play Services 22.42.12   
   DISABLED/FORCESTOPPED Google Play Store 32.9.14-21   
      
   In checking my tests I forgot to mention in the original post that a reboot   
   is required even if the app was both disabled and forcestopped in Android.   
      
   Apparently pressing "Force stop" doesn't do what anyone would think it does   
   since a reboot is required as can be shown when I tested your suggestion.   
      
   Based on your suggestion, I tested this reverse scenario:   
   DISABLED/FORCESTOPPED Google Play Services 22.42.12   
   ENABLED/RUNNING Google Play Store 32.9.14-21   
      
   In that test, the app still worked but that's when I realized things are   
   DIFFERENT once you reboot after disabling and force stopping programs.   
      
   Even turning off both and testing, the app still worked!   
   DISABLED/FORCESTOPPED Google Play Services 22.42.12   
   DISABLED/FORCESTOPPED Google Play Store 32.9.14-21   
      
   Yet rebooting after the test condition above, the app crashed as before.   
      
   Unfortunately, too many other errors resulted from Google Play Services   
   disabled/forcestopped/rebooted as shown by notifictions after reboot.   
    ERROR https://i.postimg.cc/qvMpkZrg/Clipboard01.jpg   
    Enable Google Play Services   
    [Name-of-app] won't work unless you enable Google Play Services   
      
   If someone else can confirm the following, that would help all.   
   (1) Install the app and make sure it pops up when tapped   
   (2) Disable & force stop Google Play Store in Android settings   
   (3) Reboot (this is the part I had forgotten I had done many times)   
   (4) Try to run the app   
      
   In my case, the app crashes if Google Play Store is not running.   
   If that happens for others, the important question to ask is why.   
      
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