XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows   
   From: spam@nospam.com   
      
   Unsteadyken wrote:   
      
   >> One huge advantage of Ethernet on a laptop is you can stick Wi-Fi in it.   
   >>   
   >   
   > And one can then enjoy, a degraded connection speed much worse lag/ping   
   > and have a network prone to intereference   
      
    *Why did you just make that (wrong) assumption up, sans a shred of data?*   
      
   Have you ever done it?  HINT: I have. Many times. Many _many_ times.   
     My home Wi-Fi APs   
      
   > An advantage?   
      
   We don't want your misconceptions sway other people wrongly so, which is   
   why I'm bothering to respond to your errant suggestions made just now.   
      
   To be clear...   
      
   The main advantage of sticking a Wi-Fi bridge into a PC Ethernet port is   
   that you instantly obtain the _legal limits_ of Wi-Fi signal strength!   
      
   Plus you gain receiver sensitivity that PC cards can only dream of having.   
      
   If that's not an astoundingly huge advantage to you, then it simply means   
   your problem set is so trivial that the weak PC Wi-Fi suffices for you.   
      
   But for others on this newsgroup, those _huge_ advantages may be important.   
   a. Signal strength (up to the legal limits for your country)   
   b. Receiver sensitivity (the best money can buy)   
      
   > I don't think so.   
      
   Do you think I just made it up or do you think I've actually _done_ it?   
     Desktop MikroTik pseudobridge   
   Many times I've done it...   
     Desktop MikroTik WISP radios   
   Taking measurements each time...   
     Align Ubiquiti radio antenna   
   On both ends of the connection...   
     Wi-Fi analysis   
      
   Have you ever done it?   
   I have.   
      
   > Lag/ ping.   
   > 	 I have compared connecting my PS4 using wifi and wired connections   
   > and playing Gran Turismo 7, The wifi connection introduces considerable   
   > lag which quite noticeably affects gameplay.   
   > Many lobbies  on GT7 will only accept players using a wired connection   
      
   Everything depends on the specifications of the equipment you are using.   
      
   I connect to an access point _10 kilometers_ away from my computer.   
     Typical range is around 14 miles   
      
   Notice the quality ratings are in the 84% to 94% range (which is decent).   
      
   > Interference.   
   > 	 This laptop; when asked to show available networks finds 12   
   > assorted ISP access points being used by the neighbours, if each of   
   > those has the UK average of 5+ devices connected then I am surrounded by   
   > over 50 wifi devices all fighting for airspace.   
      
   With radio, interference is always something you are keenly aware of.   
   That's why you run a spectrum analysis, which each of these radios do.   
       
      
   Notice that finds all interference in the band - not just Wi-Fi protocols!   
       
      
   Using that info, you can set any of hundreds of frequency bands & widths.   
       
      
   > I have one wifi device a Roberts Stream94i streaming radio which lives   
   > in the bedroom.   
   >   
   > I this room I have this laptop. a smart TV, a Playstation 4, a Freesat   
   > STB, a SKy q satellite recorder, an AV receiver, a BluRay universal disc   
   > player and a BT Youview IPTV recorder, all these use ethernet.   
      
   There's nothing wrong with Ethernet... except for that it needs the cable.   
      
   > I have wondered what the result would be if I disconnected the ethernet   
   > and let the devices fight it out amongst themselves for the wifi   
   > channels. I'll leave that for when I'm terminally bored.   
      
   One option, which I've done many times, is you can set an old Wi-Fi router   
   in the room (acting either as a repeater or as an extender) and then all   
   the Wi-Fi devices in the room simply interact with that one spare router.   
      
   You can see an old Linksys WRT54G set up as a wired repeater in this shot:   
     Multiple repeaters & access points   
      
   My one piece of strong advice to the many people reading this now, and in   
   the future, is that you don't need any of this if what you're using works.   
      
   You only need stronger signal, faster network CPUs, better receiver   
   sensitivity, spectrum analysis, etc., when the conditions are harder.   
      
   As an example, my barn is a few hundred feet from the house, and it gets   
   Wi-Fi just fine from the home router (via these methods).   
      
   Another example is I live in the boondocks where we don't even have cable   
   on the utility poles - so I get my Internet from a WISP ~10 miles away.   
      
   As nospam originally stated, you can glom off the local Starbucks miles   
   away line of sight if you have good radio equipment - but only if you have   
   good radio equipment - which - summarized - means the following needs   
   a. High transmitter output (always to the legal limit)   
   b. High receiver sensitivity (the best your money can buy)   
   c. Fast radio transceiver computer CPUs (the best your money can buy)   
      
   The good news is professional equipment costs the ~same as consumer crap.   
     Parts costs ~$150 total   
     MikroTik -40dBm   
   --   
   Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information   
   which, in this case, is to explain why Wi-Fi in Ethernet works for me.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)