XPost: comp.mobile.android, sci.geo.satellite-nav   
   From: this@ddress.is.invalid   
      
   Char Jackson  wrote:   
   > On 22 Sep 2023 17:58:43 GMT, Frank Slootweg  wrote:   
   >   
   > >The Real Bev  wrote:   
   > >> On 9/22/23 8:16 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   > >> > The Real Bev  wrote:   
   > >> >> On 9/21/23 6:29 PM, Wally J wrote:   
   > >> > [...]   
   > >> >> > Do you have a better reference on how "cellular tower geolocation"   
   is used   
   > >> >> > on Android and do you have a better reference on how to turn it off?   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> Put the phone in airplane mode?   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> I just found out that MY location is picked up by google maps only via   
   > >> >> wifi+location services.  With wifi off and cell service+location   
   > >> >> services on it can't see me.   
   > >> >   
   > >> >    Nope. Google Maps doesn't *show* *you* (or someone else?) where you   
   > >> > are. There's no proof that *Google* doesn't know where you are.   
   > >> >   
   > >> >    In modern Android versions, you can no longer really turn off all   
   > >> > location determination. All you can do is limit what *your* *apps* can   
   > >> > do, but you can not prevent other Google/Android components to determine   
   > >> > your location. You can only 'trust' Google to do no evil. Good luck with   
   > >> > that!   
   > >> >   
   > >> > [Rewind/repeat:]   
   > >> >> I just found out that MY location is picked up by google maps only via   
   > >> >> wifi+location services.  With wifi off and cell service+location   
   > >> >> services on it can't see me.   
   > >> >   
   > >> >    In the latter case, was 'Mobile data' off or on?   
   > >>   
   > >> I can choose 'airplane mode' on/off and wifi on/off. I hunted around for   
   > >> a 'mobile data'/other choice with no success.   
   > >   
   > >  Hmmm!? Strange!? On most phones the 'Mobile data' on/off toggle is on   
   > >the same panel as the 'Wifi', 'Bluetooth', 'Airplane mode', 'Location',   
   > >etc. toggles. My panel has 4 pages and I can arrange what goes on which   
   > >page, so perhaps your 'Mobile data' toggle is not on the main page.   
   > >   
   > >  Can someone with a Pixel  tell Bev where to look for the   
   > >'Mobile data' on/off toggle?   
   >   
   > I would just add that a Mobile Data switch probably isn't actually   
   > needed. My phone, a Samsung Galaxy S20FE, doesn't appear to have such   
   > a switch, but it does have Airplane Mode, which does the same thing.   
   >   
   > If I wanted to disable only Mobile Data, I would have to enable Airplane   
   Mode,   
   > which disables mobile data, WiFi, and BT, then manually re-enable WiFi and   
   BT.   
      
     But Airplane mode also disables calls and SMS. That's why most phones   
   have a 'Mobile data' on/off toggle, in addition to all the other ones.   
      
     Example scenario: At home, streaming video. I don't want to risk that   
   a WiFi problem makes my phone switch to Mobile data, so I switch off   
   Mobile data and still can get/make calls (and get/send SMS (Yeah,   
   *right*!)).   
      
     Does your phone have a - probably swipe-down - panel with icons which   
   work as on/off toggles for things like WiFi, Sound, Bluetooth, Location,   
   Airplane mode, etc.?   
      
     If so - no offense intended - can you drag/swipe down that panel to   
   get more toggles and more pages?   
      
     For example, my swipe-down panel initially shows 5 toggles (I can   
   configure which ones). If I drag/swipe it down further, I get 2 rows of   
   4 toggles each. If I swipe left the extended panel, I get 3 more pages   
   of 8 toggles each.   
      
     The settings part (three vertical dots) calls this panel the 'Quick   
   panel', which term I assume is also used on other Samsung phones.   
      
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